Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (317 mails)

[DenverD <DenverD@xxxxxxx>]

On 01/18/2012 08:52 PM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> * Jim Henderson<hendersj@xxxxxxxxx>  [2012-01-18 20:07]:
> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:47:53 +0100, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> >
> > > So when is www.opensuse.org going to protest against Chinese internet
> > > censorship? Your argument applies there just as well (and probably in
> > > numerous other cases).
> >
> > Do we have a large number of contributors from China currently
> > participating in the project?  Do we have a large installed userbase in
> > China?
> >
> > Certainly the "Great Firewall of China" needs to be dealt with, but there
> > is a significant difference between the US and China.
> >
> > The US is supposedly a "free" country.  But due process and other core
> > principles of US freedoms are under attack by laws like SOPA, DMCA, PIPA,
> > etc.  And those changes in US law have implications outside the US.
> >
> > It's curious that you would equate the two situations - because they're
> > very, *very* different.  They're only similar in that they're about
> > censorship by the government.  But the historical backgrounds of the two
> > countries are very, very different.
> >
> > That doesn't mean what happens in China is right.  It isn't.
>
> I was trying to point out that the reasoning behind taking part
> in this protest promoting a certain politica agenda (no matter
> how well intended) is rather arbitrary and the said slippery
> slope.
> And I'm rather surprised the board is even entitled to make
> decisions about such matters which are at best peripherally
> related to openSUSE on behalf of the project.

i agree and suggest the board grossly overstepped their authority and 
their irresponsible behavior should be dealt with in some appropriate 
fashion...their removal would not be any more radical than their 
decision to jump into USA politics..

btw i am very anti-SOPA/PIPA but that is a private individual matter 
between me (as a citizen) and my government....this Community and its 
Board has _no_ standing in this matter whatsoever...in fact it is almost 
as childish to go black for a day as it is for the US government to 
think it can control the net in the first place...they do not have a clue.

dd
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