Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (156 mails)

[Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 10/25/2011 03:00 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Robert Schweikert wrote:
> >
> > > > > If we have a "Community" section in the release notes we can
> > > > > highlight projects such as KDE:KDE3 that are efforts by the
> > > > > community or individuals within the community and that are not part
> > > > > of the release as such. In this section we could also talk about
> > > > > other projects such as the Virtualization:Cloud projects that are
> > > > > not part of 12.1 proper but might be interesting to people looking
> > > > > at openSUSE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this clarifies things a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Not really, but I look forward to further clarification of what is
> > > > community driven and what isn't.  It is clear that some things are
> > > > not (KDE4, systemd come to mind), but it's all mostly hidden behind
> > > > the scene.
> > >
> > > Excuse me?
> > >
> > > How are KDE4 and systemd not community driven?
> >
> > Why don't you explain the opposite to me?  What were the decision
> > processes involved in the focus-shift towards KDE4?
>
> OK, I'll be partially repeating what I said in the thread when we discussed
> systemd.
>
> Those who contribute to any given devel project within openSUSE determine
> the direction of the project by means of their contribution.
>
> If a given devel project such as the init system or KDE happens to have
> mostly contributors that also happen to work at SUSE than that's just the
> way it is. However, this does not preclude contributors that do not work for
> SUSE, there's no "SUSE employees only" project in openSUSE, to contribute to
> the devel project. With contribution one gets influence over the direction
> of the project.
>
> Those who do the work determine the direction. Then they submit to factory
> and if things work and are maintained the submissions generally get accepted
> into factory.

In support of Robert statement, I'll say that I'm a non-employee contributor.

I have 2 areas of interest primarily.  neither are being pursued by
paid employees as far as I know.

1) Computer Forensic tools - I have pushed a number of perl modules
which are very specialized for computer forensic use.  All of those
were accepted (or not) based on the quality of the submission, not
based on the relevance of what I submitted.  I also submitted
sleuthkit as a set of command line tools for computer forensics.  Once
I got past some licensing and technical issues, it was accepted and
will be in 12.1

Note: I don't think the above is release note worthy.  It is a too
little, too late issue.  I hope to push a bigger set of computer
forensic tools into 12.2.  At that point a comment about the
collection would be appreciated.

2) a ext4 snapshot extension - I have packaged a KMP and userspace
tools to support point-in-time snapshots to be supported with the ext4
filesystem.  The KMP is in the filesystem repo right now.
Unfortunately it is probably too late to push them into 12.1.  But
that is a technical issue, not a political one.

So if you want to have specific features in opensuse, it seems to me
it's just a matter of getting your hands dirty and doing it.

Greg
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