Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (202 mails)

[Jim Henderson <hendersj@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:34:57 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> > It's useful to discuss things to a point, but a decision needs to be
> > made (regardless of the topic) and we need to move on to the next
> > thing. Trying to come to a group consensus is a useful decision making
> > process, but not something that should be employed for every single
> > decision being made - the community can't micromanage every aspect of
> > the project - that's part of the reason we elected a leadership team in
> > the project.
>
> I was not aware that we had elected a leadership team.

They're called the "openSUSE Board".  Surely you've heard of them.

> > With regards to the topic under discussion, maybe someone could (if it
> > hasn't already been done) post a high-level comparison of the two
> > components and identify what a migration path would look like to get
> > from sysvinit to systemd.
>
> I think that is what part of what we are asking. Overall, switching to
> systemd sounds like a good idea to me, although I don't think we should
> make it default in 12.1.  systemd comes with certain new features (e.g.
> cgroup support) which will no doubt be attractive to some more than
> others.  Let the keen, early adopters iron out whatever wrinkles might
> be left after Factory, then let the regular user get a system (in 12.2)
> that "just works".

I would guess that most users probably won't care which one is in place 
as long as the stuff they're using works properly.  Most people don't 
care about the init scripts until such time as they fail to actually 
start a needed service.

We're still a ways off from 12.1, I think far enough that there's time to 
iron the wrinkles out in Factory and have it ready for the 12.1 release.

> > If we are going to switch, we need to provide a migration path for
> > those who have created custom init scripts.
>
> systemd is, as far as my own tests have shown, virtually sysvinit
> compatible, i.e. custom init scripts will quite likely continue to work.

Well, then, why the objections to the switch?  Why all the discussion?

Jim

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