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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] The road to systemd for openSUSE 12.1
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 08:29:17PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Le 11/06/2011 18:39, Greg KH a écrit :

It should "just work" so there should not be anything you have to learn
about, right?

wrong.

I had quite often to edit init scripts for adapt to local
situations, so I don't see why systemd could be any better in this
respect (it's not it's fault), so if these scripts are no more used
I will have to learn new things

Of course if you need to customize things you will have to adapt, to
think otherwise is crazy.

But for the majority of people out there, they never have to edit an
init script. Heck, I haven't had to touch one myself for many many
years now and I use Linux in all sorts of different situations.

The moves from lpr to cups and to come from grub to grub2 or
xorg.conf removed did no good for my configs, hal to udev also

That is application configurations, and have nothing to do with systemd.

not to say we don't have to make moves, but often it is moving from
something simple to something complicated that don't always work

systemv simple? Hah.

by the way I have a bug against systemd with no usefull answer (and
only one answer, by the way), so I wonder if the debugging is
already done

if you remember, openSUSE did some bad moves in the past, so don't
be surprised if people are frightened.

People are always worried about change, I understand. Personally I
think they should go use slackware if they are that concerned about
change :)

It's as if people here don't trust the developers of the system that
they use to do the right thing. And that's an attitude that is not very
wise, or useful.

greg k-h
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