Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (292 mails)

[Thomas Hertweck <Thomas.Hertweck@xxxxxx>]

On 15/05/11 14:01, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
> [...]
> The guiding principals are a good thing, but you can´t expect that 
> *everyone* *always* think of them and write his post according to them.
> We´re all human, and humans making mistakes, and often ram their heads 
> together.
>
> And by the way, just because Jos is our community manager that doesn´t 
> mean that he have to be always friendly and correct. Think of the 
> catholic church. The´re priests swear to never ever have sex during 
> their life and never ever marry. But it´s a fact that the most of them 
> having children and also a woman they love.
>
> When you want a *always* clear and friendly discussion on such a topic, 
> you need to talk with robots.
>
> To me, you´re all like little children who are arguing about a toy 
> anyone wants to have.... And I think with this mail I become one of you.

Grow up! You still think that an openSUSE community manager or ambassador
or member can do whatever she/he wants and just get away with it, but
that's not the case. I am sure if a "normal" community member had written
an email like Jos' email, the wrath of a lot of mailing list members would
have come down on that person. This has nothing to do with kids and toys,
you are now trying to ridicule this thread to disgrace certain people. It
is about respecting other people's opinions and concerns. Read this entire
thread and you should realise that many people have expressed concerns
about Jos' approach regarding a harassment policy and wanted to go for a
short, simple statement. Do you really think just wiping all of these
concerns away and stating "Next time I have something like this I'll just
talk to a few sensible people and put it live" is the right approach? Do
you really think a community manager should behave like this? I certainly
don't think so.

Unfortunately, on this mailing list people like you make the continuous
attempt to silence other people who point out critical things or ask
unpleasant questions, people who do not just say "yes" to everything the
board or community manager or other members propose. Your email is another
perfect example for this. One day even you will realise that something is
wrong with this approach and those people perhaps contribute more than you
think. It's just not necessarily the stuff you would like to hear.

Th.
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