Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (292 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 05:48:46PM +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:
> * Greg KH (gregkh@xxxxxxx) [20110509 20:54]:
>
> > Wait, have you _read_ the post?  It specifically defines what Harassment
> > includes.  Is that not sufficient?
>
> Nope, some terms are too vague:
>
>   offensive verbal comments related to ...
>
> Define offensive.

of·fen·sive
 
 [uh-fen-siv or, for 4, 5, aw-fen-, of-en-]
–adjective
1.  causing resentful displeasure; highly irritating, angering, or annoying: 
offensive television commercials.
2.  unpleasant or disagreeable to the sense: an offensive odor.
3.  repugnant to the moral sense, good taste, or the like; insulting: an 
offensive remark; an offensive joke.

>   sexual or racial images in public spaces
>
> Them being defined as sexual or racial by whom?

By the person hearing them.

>   deliberate intimidation
>
> Again, defined by whom?

By the person feeling intimidated.

>   inappropriate jokes and insults;
>
> OK, insults should be out of the question but who defines the
> inappropriateness of a joke? That varies between cultures.

Again, it is defined by the person hearing it.

Yes, it is vague, but that's the way language is, sorry.  Even legal
language dealing with this type of thing looks almost exactly like this
wording, so you aren't going to get a much "clearer" definition
anywhere that I know of.

>   inappropriate physical contact; and unwelcome sexual attention. 
>
> Needs to be defined as this is too unclear.

How would you define this?

thanks,

greg k-h
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