Jim Henderson <hendersj@gmail.com> wrote at Saturday 12 February 2011:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:56:21 +0100, Sascha Manns wrote:
The Team has decided to givup the german Newsletter (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki-de/2010-12/msg00004.html). I wasn't a member of the german translation team. I just decided to wake up a similar Newsletter.
Which Infrastructure we're using is irrelevant. The open-slx Base is for german Users and a german Newsletter is a good place too.
The infrastructure you're using is important. The open-slx Platform divides the community by providing multiple places for German users to go to access information. I mentioned with the forums, there's German forums on OSF, there's linuxclub.de - so how does adding yet another set of German forums benefit the German community? How does adding another German portal (let's not forget that there are already German resources on opensuse.org as well) with a separate wiki, communications infrastructure, etc, etc, etc help *unify* the German community?
Nobody's debating that addressing the needs of the German community is important. The question, ultimately, is does it make sense to address the needs of the German community through multiple venues?
Otherwise we can ask why Packman the Packages not hosts in our Build Service? Imagine that we have some Packages as double. We importing the stuff from Packman and use this Packages in our BuildService. Most this Action runs for building important Depencies, that can't solved by our Build Service.
So i think that importing the whole stuff is a better solution. We don't need more Package bases.
Sure, but that's a side issue to this. Let's talk about what open-slx has control over, since that's the current issue. It doesn't help the issue by saying "well, someone else is doing their own thing as well", and then use that as justification.
You raise some new and relevant questions in bringing up Packman, but of course that's a different discussion and not even related to what we're talking about with the German community being split up further than it already is. It's not really a valid defense (not that I want you to feel you have to be "on defense" here) to, in response to a question about "what benefit is it to further segment the German community" by saying "it already is". Further division isn't a *good* thing, and pointing to the fact that it already is divided really isn't valid justification for *further* dividing the community. Does that make sense?
I would ask that you please stop trying to divert those questions and just focus on the topic at hand. Doing that makes it difficult to have a discussion about the open-slx piece of the puzzle. If you want to talk about open-slx we have official Persons:
- Stefan.Werden@open-slx.de
- rhorstkoetter@open-slx.de
Thats all ;-) -- Sincerely Yours Sascha Manns open-slx Community & Support Agent openSUSE Membership Comitee openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com German Community Portal: http://community.open-slx.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org