Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (280 mails)

[Sascha Manns <saigkill@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim Henderson <hendersj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote at Saturday 12 February 2011:

> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:56:21 +0100, Sascha Manns wrote:
> > The Team has decided to givup the german Newsletter
> > (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki-de/2010-12/msg00004.html).
> > I wasn't a member of the german translation team. I just decided
> > to wake up a similar Newsletter.
> >
> > Which Infrastructure we're using is irrelevant. The open-slx Base
> > is for german Users and a german Newsletter is a good place too.
>
> The infrastructure you're using is important.  The open-slx Platform
> divides the community by providing multiple places for German users
> to go to access information.  I mentioned with the forums, there's
> German forums on OSF, there's linuxclub.de - so how does adding yet
> another set of German forums benefit the German community?  How does
> adding another German portal (let's not forget that there are
> already German resources on opensuse.org as well) with a separate
> wiki, communications infrastructure, etc, etc, etc help *unify* the
> German community?
>
> Nobody's debating that addressing the needs of the German community
> is important.  The question, ultimately, is does it make sense to
> address the needs of the German community through multiple venues?
>
> > Otherwise we can ask why Packman the Packages not hosts in our
> > Build Service? Imagine that we have some Packages as double. We
> > importing the stuff from Packman and use this Packages in our
> > BuildService. Most this Action runs for building important
> > Depencies, that can't solved by our Build Service.
> >
> > So i think that importing the whole stuff is a better solution. We
> > don't need more Package bases.
>
> Sure, but that's a side issue to this. Let's talk about what open-slx
> has control over, since that's the current issue.  It doesn't help
> the issue by saying "well, someone else is doing their own thing as
> well", and then use that as justification.
>
> You raise some new and relevant questions in bringing up Packman, but
> of course that's a different discussion and not even related to what
> we're talking about with the German community being split up further
> than it already is.  It's not really a valid defense (not that I
> want you to feel you have to be "on defense" here) to, in response
> to a question about "what benefit is it to further segment the
> German community" by saying "it already is".  Further division isn't
> a *good* thing, and pointing to the fact that it already is divided
> really isn't valid justification for *further* dividing the
> community.  Does that make sense?
>
> I would ask that you please stop trying to divert those questions and
> just focus on the topic at hand.  Doing that makes it difficult to
> have a discussion about the open-slx piece of the puzzle.
If you want to talk about open-slx we have official Persons:
* Stefan.Werden@xxxxxxxxxxx
* rhorstkoetter@xxxxxxxxxxx

Thats all ;-)
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Sincerely Yours

Sascha Manns                                                    
open-slx Community & Support Agent
openSUSE Membership Comitee
openSUSE Marketing Team

Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com
German Community Portal: http://community.open-slx.de
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