Satoru you have more than a point to all of that you are saying. I read all the postings in "Why many people don't support Guiding Principles ?" and also read the article of your link. We must find ways to avoid making the community into a club by any means. I am starting to believe that we might have an issue to the length of the orbit around the common target as a community but being here and having a polite discussion is sure encouraging. David Now I see your point but you got me the wrong way. I accept that the way I said certain things may seems that I believe that members and community are 2 separate things but I really don't. I fully adopt you opinion that "there is a much larger openSUSE community than just the membership, and they mostly contribute to openSUSE, even if at a lower level than the members. The members depend upon this larger community for new members and for all sorts of things, including promoting openSUSE. Without this community OS would just be a bunch of people playing with a toy in the garden shed." My actions within the Greek openSUSE (and not only) community is the proof of my belief to all that. Greg I think I agree with you in all. You make good points. To be honest I am starting to believe that I might not be as experienced as I though I was initially on community matters. Kostas 2011/1/21 Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org>:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
and on the hot subject, could we have a *private* opensuse-members list? private, that is with closed posting and archives only available for members.
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open != open lists + secret board communications + secret member communications
Yep, I have to agree here. Not to mention, a private list with 500+ members is a contradiction in terms. (i.e. it isn't the least bit private).
If the board wants the members to know something it doesn't want the world to know, they have our email addresses. Just use them. And hopefully as bcc, so no one can reply.
Perhaps a one-way list for communications such as those only concerning the members. A bit far fetched though.
I would not object to a mailinglist that only opensuse-members could post to, but anyone could read.
+1
That provides the openness I think appropriate, but keeps the traffic down to only those that contribute. In fact, I would not complain if -project were converted to a members only list from a posting perspective.
We might want to discuss that suggestion a bit more, but it's not bad.
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