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Re: [opensuse-project] Public statement from the Board on the removal of a member
- From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:59:44 -0500
- Message-id: <1295020784.13913.10.camel@linux-yu4c.site>
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 15:00 +0100, Karsten König wrote:
Yes, it is called a BLOG. And that person can privately e-mail as
individuals as they like.
You can trust the judgement of the board by electing / voting-for people
you trust. Transparency used in this manner is a flimsy veil for
nit-picking and generally hobbling.
IMO, as for basically filing for an appeal on the forum [which is really
what you suggest] is a terrible idea [what else can "bring up opposite
proof" mean]. I assume [trust!] the board has already communicated with
the person and they've already had ample opportunity to argue their
case. There is no reasonable cause to believe in a secret cabal of the
board kicking out members.
Dragging this kind of crap around in a forum accomplishes nothing but
providing a *disincentive* for people to participate. The paranoid
witch-hunt crowd here is already ample enough with giving them fuel. [I
know I and others have dropped of opensuse mailing lists because of the
incessant haranguing that Novel/the-board/whoever is
evil/conspiring/cloistered]. In general I feel the powers-that-be here
are much *too* tolerant for the projects good; certainly not the
opposite.
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Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2011, 01:24:32 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
6) Unfortunately, only removing the membership status wouldn't have changedIf the offender feels mistreated does he/she have a chance to voice his/her
anything in this case, as the disruptive and poisonous behaviour was not
seen exclusively in situations where membership plays a role. The Board
members were (and still are) convinced that we had to remove the person
from the project altogether to resolve this issue.
opinion about the matter to the community?
Yes, it is called a BLOG. And that person can privately e-mail as
individuals as they like.
Community preferbly as in opensuse-project mailinglist.
That way we can safely trust the judgement of the board until the person can
bring up opposite proof.
You can trust the judgement of the board by electing / voting-for people
you trust. Transparency used in this manner is a flimsy veil for
nit-picking and generally hobbling.
IMO, as for basically filing for an appeal on the forum [which is really
what you suggest] is a terrible idea [what else can "bring up opposite
proof" mean]. I assume [trust!] the board has already communicated with
the person and they've already had ample opportunity to argue their
case. There is no reasonable cause to believe in a secret cabal of the
board kicking out members.
Dragging this kind of crap around in a forum accomplishes nothing but
providing a *disincentive* for people to participate. The paranoid
witch-hunt crowd here is already ample enough with giving them fuel. [I
know I and others have dropped of opensuse mailing lists because of the
incessant haranguing that Novel/the-board/whoever is
evil/conspiring/cloistered]. In general I feel the powers-that-be here
are much *too* tolerant for the projects good; certainly not the
opposite.
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