Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (479 mails)

[Karsten König <remur@xxxxxxx>]

Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2011, 15:21:24 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> * Karsten König <remur@xxxxxxx> [01-14-11 08:59]:
> > Am Freitag, 14. Januar 2011, 01:24:32 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
> > > 6) Unfortunately, only removing the membership status wouldn't have
> > > changed anything in this case, as the disruptive and poisonous
> > > behaviour was not seen exclusively in situations where membership
> > > plays a role. The Board members were (and still are) convinced that we
> > > had to remove the person from the project altogether to resolve this
> > > issue.
> >
> > If the offender feels mistreated does he/she have a chance to voice
> > his/her opinion about the matter to the community? Community preferbly
> > as in opensuse- project mailinglist.
>
> Improbable as the person was completely remove, ie: from mailing lists,
> irc...
>
> > That way we can safely trust the judgement of the board until the person
> > can bring up opposite proof.
> >
> >
> > To me this even sounds pretty good as a rule of thumb in case this
> > happens again:
> > A note to -project that the board was forced to remove a member from the
> > project due to violations of the guidelines and he himself is free to
> > speak up if he feels wronged. Otherwise any communication between the
> > affected parties is to be done in private.
>
> The original post on this subject stated that numerous efforts were made
> to achieve compliance with the GPs w/o success.  Doesn't this meet with
> your suggestion?

No, I think the removed person should have a right to defend itself in public 
after the affected parties are informed of the verdict, he doesn't have to 
though.

> > That way privacy is respected and no member can be silenced by the board
> > without note.
>
> The notation appears to be an afterthought.

I fear I don't understand, I tried combining the wish of privacy with the 
transparency of an open government.


Regards,
Karsten
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