Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (422 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 04:50:41PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
> Stephan Kulow wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > When the roadmap was discussed, I said we would decide on the version
> > number when we have a clearer picture about what would make up the
> > new version.
> >
> > So as Milestone5 is on the mirrors and I'm myself preparing for
> > christmas holidays, I wonder: what's your oppinion on the version
> > number? I myself prefer 11.4, but I have no strong objection against
> > 12.0 if this is what the majority wants.
>
> To there is not enough new material in 11.4 to make it a major release,
> so 11.4

Well, the original message stated that there had to be:
        - drastic changes in user experience during installation or the
          way linux works
        - drastic changes in the base system that make it much harder
          than usual to do live updates.

But there's probably not going to be a "drastic change to the way Linux
works" in any near year timeframe ever.  Linux is all about constant
little improvements all the time. 

If you go back and look at a distro from 5 years ago, yeah, it looks
hugely different, faster, and nicer.  But we aren't doing 5 year
releases, we are doing them in months.

So I don't think these requirements are _ever_ going to be met in the
next 3 years at the very least for openSUSE.

So, that means we stick with the 11.X series for a long time?  Or we
should redefine what the rules should be :)

However, we do have things in 11.4 that seem much "larger" than normal:
        - systemd, a major way the boot process works, speeding things
          up massively
        - all wireless devices supported by open drivers
        - major 3d open driver advancements
        - large KDE advancements from previous releases
        - Tumbleweed providing "rolling" updates
        - possible MeeGo(tm) "spin" for netbooks

So, given that, I'd say this is as good a time as any to advance the
major number.  Otherwise, what specifically is it going to take to move
the major number that could possibly happen in the next few years.

thanks,

greg k-h

p.s. This is why I feel the whole major.minor numbering scheme for
software is broken, and just use 1 number for projects that I was/am in
charge of naming (udev, usbutils, etc.)  I think it's worked out much
better that way over the long-term.
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