Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (422 mails)

[Thomas Hertweck <Thomas.Hertweck@xxxxxx>]

On 12/12/10 21:22, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> [....]
> Well, whatever someone actually _does_ and not just emits talks will happen.

Hmm, this is a bit of a chicken and egg problem. You shouldn't really
start such a project without having a plan and a team that's able to
deliver the expectations, so discussions certainly are required. However,
discussing everything to death will lead to nothing, I fully agree. Having
read the emails of the last couple of days, I definitely think some people
try to run a marathon without even having learned to stand up and walk. ;-)

It seems as if Wolfgang is now going ahead with an 11.1 LTS version. I
personally think that's the wrong decision, I would have started with an
SLES clone, to be honest. (And, if asked, I would not have based an LTS
version on 11.1.) Unless you got kernel developers, very good programmers
(including people who know the low-level stuff), and quite a few
experienced software testers in the team, it will be difficult to maintain
the software and deliver high quality over the entire lifetime of an LTS
release. But there you go. So all the best to Wolfgang, hopefully he will
manage to handle that project, I am sure the openSUSE community would
benefit from it.

Andrew would like to start an openSLES project, so now we already have two
competing approaches. Given our very limited resources, I don't think this
is going to work. If we look into a SuSE-based Linux release with long(er)
lifetime, I think we need to focus on one such project. It will be more
than enough work, i.e. splitting the resources and working on projects
that compete with each other (at least in some areas) doesn't sound like a
good start, at least from my perspective.

Has anybody checked with Boyd Gerber who tried to start a similar project
about a year ago? Maybe we could learn from his experiences and avoid the
same mistakes this time. I haven't seen any contributions from him in this
thread, I hope he's still around (trying a CC on this email).

Regards,
Thomas

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