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Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE LTS
- From: "Kim Leyendecker" <kimleyendecker@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 13:54:40 +0100
- Message-id: <COL107-DS19DD68B288300AD8260A19A5100@xxxxxxx>
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the
discussion on the Mailing list?
Well, I think you´re right and it´s more important to talk about the resources that project will need.
They are three important issues:
1.) Support: This is one of the major problems. If I want to use a LTS version, I need Support, right? Who want to give the support. I don´t know but _I_ need secure, when I use a LTS version.
2.) Updates: Yes, maybe it´s the same like support, but updates are important. An example is the Kernel. I don´t need a LTS version, that needs a new kernel every month. There´s a LTS kernel the right choose. But If I use the LTS version for a server, I want to have the latest security updates. How we can realize that there are the updates for the system? Maybe we can use Thumbleweed for updates (e.g. for Firefox or Thunderbird) these programmes are not so "important" like KDE or GNOME. I think a LTS version don´t need the latest desktop environment. But the latest browser is a "must-have", because of security.
3.) Publishing: With which version we would start? How we would build it? I mean if it base on openSUSE 11.3, and we release it in March 2011, 11.4 comes in a few days. Maybe a SLE-clone is much better than a system that base on openSUSE. Hope you know what I mean.
kind regards and good luck for the project
kdl
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Nelson Marques
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:53 AM
To: Marcus Meissner
Cc: Thomas Hertweck ; opensuse-project@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE LTS
Hi,
People often say I complicate things too much... Adryan offered the
resources... forget the name for time being and focus on what you want
to do, people that are available and for what... take Adryan offer and
start it... decide the name later... For what I've seen around there
is nice demand for a openSUSE Server oriented solution. If there are
people available to make it happen... sure... go for it... By now
everyone has an idea of possible problems... instead of pointed them,
start dropping some solutions instead.
Then when the time comes and you need to name your creation or
reflection of the community, you think on the name and how you want to
position yourselfs with openSUSE without 'offending' (I really don't
know the right word for their) our sponsors.
In the end, it will end up dependably mostly on the people maintaining
it until some visibility is build around it. I personally like the
idea of a solution more server oriented. This will also probably
increase the number of overall packages available if the community
finds it Since such a project might bring lots of new synergies around
openSUSE, maybe we should forget the name and positioning for now,
leaving it for later.
nm
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Well, I think you´re right and it´s more important to talk about the resources that project will need.
They are three important issues:
1.) Support: This is one of the major problems. If I want to use a LTS version, I need Support, right? Who want to give the support. I don´t know but _I_ need secure, when I use a LTS version.
2.) Updates: Yes, maybe it´s the same like support, but updates are important. An example is the Kernel. I don´t need a LTS version, that needs a new kernel every month. There´s a LTS kernel the right choose. But If I use the LTS version for a server, I want to have the latest security updates. How we can realize that there are the updates for the system? Maybe we can use Thumbleweed for updates (e.g. for Firefox or Thunderbird) these programmes are not so "important" like KDE or GNOME. I think a LTS version don´t need the latest desktop environment. But the latest browser is a "must-have", because of security.
3.) Publishing: With which version we would start? How we would build it? I mean if it base on openSUSE 11.3, and we release it in March 2011, 11.4 comes in a few days. Maybe a SLE-clone is much better than a system that base on openSUSE. Hope you know what I mean.
kind regards and good luck for the project
kdl
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Nelson Marques
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:53 AM
To: Marcus Meissner
Cc: Thomas Hertweck ; opensuse-project@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE LTS
Hi,
People often say I complicate things too much... Adryan offered the
resources... forget the name for time being and focus on what you want
to do, people that are available and for what... take Adryan offer and
start it... decide the name later... For what I've seen around there
is nice demand for a openSUSE Server oriented solution. If there are
people available to make it happen... sure... go for it... By now
everyone has an idea of possible problems... instead of pointed them,
start dropping some solutions instead.
Then when the time comes and you need to name your creation or
reflection of the community, you think on the name and how you want to
position yourselfs with openSUSE without 'offending' (I really don't
know the right word for their) our sponsors.
In the end, it will end up dependably mostly on the people maintaining
it until some visibility is build around it. I personally like the
idea of a solution more server oriented. This will also probably
increase the number of overall packages available if the community
finds it Since such a project might bring lots of new synergies around
openSUSE, maybe we should forget the name and positioning for now,
leaving it for later.
nm
The comment about "doing it outside of the openSUSE project" referred to a
clone of SLES, not an openSUSE LTS version.
I dont think that anything speaks against using the OBS also for a potential openSLES.
Ciao, Marcus
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