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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: What's the latest on the strategy discussion? (Why not focus on quality?)
  • From: "Kim Leyendecker" <kimleyendecker@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:37:39 +0100
  • Message-id: <COL107-DS24DF4B7F94E9C1308D2BD3A5350@xxxxxxx>
I´m understanding what you mean. I think a stable system for every one.

Professionals in other branches need stable system, so that they can actually
use software that is specific for their expertize, which can help adoption
rates when other around them see that computer just works.

I think these users mostly use SUSE Linux Enterprise. That´s in generell not the problem of openSUSE (Yes, I know that openSUSE is the basesystem of SUSE Linux Enterprise).

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Rajko M.
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:35 AM
To: opensuse-project@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] Re: What's the latest on the strategy discussion? (Why not focus on quality?)

On Saturday 13 November 2010 14:58:18 Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, that´s looks good. I think a professional user is a person, who works
as admin. But he can be a person who likes computers, especially running
Linux and he know many about this system and his issues or something like
this. I think, a professional user can be put in two groups:

- Nerds, Geeks and Hackers: I think this is explaining by his self.

- The Home/Business-Pro: He knows many about Linux, can fix the system and
do the things Raiko M. says before.

Kim,

When we talk about professional, it is not only about computer and Linux
skills, but even if we narrow that to Linux professional, it is impossible to
know all aspects of Linux computing equally good. Even Linux professional will
appreciate that system as a whole is stable, so that he can play with
components that he knows good.

Professionals in other branches need stable system, so that they can actually
use software that is specific for their expertize, which can help adoption
rates when other around them see that computer just works.

When we go one step down to the Linux power user, a need for overall stability
is still present, as it is better to do something useful, even if that is
still attempt to break something, then to spend time fixing the system.

Then we can go one more step lower to the users that can understand
instructions how to fix a problem, but with much more lost time. They need
their computer running, as they probably want to do something else.

All users benefit from stable system, but having time for something else, is
useful for openSUSE too, like translating in their language, help fixing
usability bugs, planing next event, helping new users, installing openSUSE to
other people's computers (with confidence it will work), learning how to use
graphic programs, learning principles of graphic design, trying to connect
their instruments to computer, and so on.

Next step down in Linux skill level are new users that need stable system to
use it at all. They don't know how to fix system, they don't know much how to
configure system, but with stable system they have chance to learn how to use
it.

BTW, providing system that works nicely means much more time will be spent on
surrounding activities, not fighting bugs that majority are anyway not
qualified to do, not even to provide reasonably good feedback without a lot of
hand holding.

One of problems that openSUSE had in previous releases is too many annoyances
that can be overcome with some Linux experience, but I don't see the question:
"How many other people such experienced user can serve, after he is done with
his computer?"

In other words, increasing quality will give chance current users to spread
openSUSE, not just word about it :)

regards
kdl

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Rajko
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