Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (229 mails)

["Kim Leyendecker" <kimleyendecker@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Well I think a "professional" is a person who can install Linux on his or 
her own. You maybe laugh about this sentence, but I know people who can´t 
install Windows. They aren´t professionals I think. If they can´t install 
Windows, the maybe can´t install Linux too. A professional should know 
things like this:

- *What´s a swap-partition?
- *Where´s root?
- *Why I can´t running my Windows applications without wine or something 
other?

Yes, that are questions they are important to me. A professional should be 
an advanced or power user. I think that´s say all.

Regards,
kdl

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Holger Hetterich
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:32 AM
To: opensuse-project@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] What's the latest on the strategy 
discussion?

Am Freitag, den 12.11.2010, 00:41 +0100 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
> On 2010-11-08 17:42:09 (+0100), Holger Hetterich <hhetter@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> [...]
> > [...] The "world's
> > most usable Linux" is something that depends on the users look at it. I,
> > as a user, see the whole phrase as something like: "Ok, they want to be
> > usable, even for my grandma, and by the same time create something new,
> > innovative, and maintain it !".
>
> "Usable", as Martin wrote, is really a bad term to use IMHO.
> It is unclear, and everyone will have her own interpretation of that
> term. Some may even understand it as "accessible" (as in a11y).

You will always have a personal interpretation of an individual on any
terms you have in a strategy statement. For example, what defines
someone being a "professional" (used in other suggestions)? What will a
"professional" from the film industry expect from a linux distribution
for professionals?

Also, I don't have a problem in that someone understands it as
accessible as in a11y, and having those in the target audience included.

> The mission statement must be short and precise.

It is already short. The more precise you get, the more possible users
will be lost. Is that the idea?

> I wholeheartedly agree with the "explaining is losing" that was cited on
> this thread.

You will always have to explain it. There's no way around it.

> > And actually, that's the distribution I am looking for, both from the
> > POV of a user or a developer.
>
> But that is specifically what we do _not_ aim for, as of the strategy.
>
> Again, having a strategy and defining a target audience does _not_ mean
> that openSUSE isn't usable for less or inexperienced users (my
> girlfriend and my daughter use it too, and neither of them are computer
> wizards).

I never had doubts on that.

> It just means that our focus, during development and when we have to
> take decisions that can only go one way or another, we take the decision
> that favours our target audience.

And that would be to decide for the solution that provides the best
usability, while trying to maintain a good platform for development and
innovation. What is the problem?

Linux isn't exactly known for being usable for the masses. I think a
distribution showing it can be usable is a remarkable goal.

Holger

> cheers

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