On Friday 12 November 2010 07:06:54 Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
After yesterday's openFATE screening team IRC meeting, I've overviewed recently requested features (via new instance) and got some additional impressions and questions which should be shared and further discussed.
# You can read the mention below on http://openfate.titanpad.com/notes # as well. ;-)
As mentioned yesterday, I've tried to answer many of the open questions in a better way and thus created a new page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening_process Please read through it and comment on whatever questions are open. I also updated the following page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening I've tried to answer some of your questions already, so let me give references as appropriate. Feel free t o improve my description on the wiki - and whenever you disagree, please speak up. We're creating a new process from scratch and out of my experience with FATE inside Novell I propose the process but it's our team's process ;)
* Users can now request features for 'SUSE Gallary' and 'SUSE Studio Online (Hosted Service)' as well. As a part of openSUSE project, should screening team be responsible to features for 'SUSE Gallary' and 'SUSE Studio Online (Hosted Service)'?
I don't think so, here's my current understanding: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening_process#Products
* Tags listed on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening#Tags are mostly appropriate for the features for the product "openSUSE 11.4", but not suitable for which for other products such as Buildservice, Package Wishlist, openFATE ... Do we need to prepare some more additional primary tags, or, tag them as "misc" anyway?
I guess we have to create different tags for different products.
* There's a newly requested feature "Include Pacman and VLC repos in OBS" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310793 As Rémy has commented there, this feature cannot be realized due to legal issue. In such a case, may I move the status from "unconfirmed" to "rejected"?
Yes, you may.
* Look at this feature: "Please add Python Turbogears to OBS" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310794 I think this is a kind of 'Package Wishlist'. But in this case, a user has already built the package in his home project. Can I move the status from "unconfirmed" to "done"? Or, should I ask the requester "Do you want the software to be included in standard repository?"
IMO Package Wishlist describes packages for the openSUSE distribution and I've documented this at: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate_screening_process#Package_Wishes
* The term "Customer benefit" evokes "Novell-Costomer" relationship. As a FLOSS community, we openSUSE don't have customers but users. Therefore I think it should be "User benefit".
Agreed - and thanks for Tom for changing it.
* In case the request is something like "openSUSE adopts A as default now. Let's replace A with B and set B as default!", it might be difficult to decide whether we should adopt the request or not. # You may remember the endless flame war "Default DE - KDE vs GNOME" See for example: "Include Unity as alternative GNOME GUI" https://features.opensuse.org/preview/310804 It is tagged as 'gnome' now, but I don't think GNOME people will accept including Unity *as alternative GNOME GUI*. :-P
1) Let's replace A with B and set B as default! 2) Let's add B in addition to A so that users can easily take their choice!
I think 1 and 2 have very different meanings. But sometimes it is very vague whether a feature request says 1 or 2. So the question is, how should we navigate such kind of requests?
Let's discuss these requests on our IRC meeting or via email. I'm adding a section to the IRC meeting now called: Discussion of specific features.
* It takes thousands of man-hours to verify each feature request whether it is duplicated or already done. :-( We definitely need a solution for this problem.
We do not need to be perfect, it's ok if we filter out only 50 percent in the first step, since the area experts will do this step as well. Sure, the earlier we filter them out, the less work it is for everybody... thanks for your comments! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org