Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (349 mails)

[Karsten König <remur@xxxxxxx>]

Am Freitag, 6. August 2010, 01:32:28 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 17:11:10 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
> > I don't need to look back at the discussion last year to ask a very
> > simple no-brainer question.  It defies logic to me that the only reason
> > a contributor will come forth is simply because of whether there's a
> > default or not.   If that's the pivotal reason, then one would assume
> > there are *no* contributors now in GNOME because GNOME isn't the default
> > and thus everyone in openSUSE-GNOME quit.
> >
> > A better strategy is not to make KDE the primary focus, but to make KDE
> > the best it can be on openSUSE.   Likewise, making GNOME, LXDE, and XFCE
> > also the best it can be on openSUSE.  Resources are not being shifted
> > away from one to the other.  We're not going to create a strategy that
> > requires people participating on other desktops to switch.
>
> Now you know my position on this strategy but this isn't completely right.
> Sometimes, the needs of desktops clash - and what do you choose in such
> cases? That's where an official focus helps. In Ubuntu, KDE always looses
> out because GNOME is the default; same with Fedora. Doesn't mean the KDE
> implementations on Fedora or Ubuntu suck but they're not as good as they
> could be (which anyone who has used them will agree with).
>
> > So what does this strategy proposal really gain us?  Just words.
>
> A base to make decisions on in SOME area's. Not all area's, which is one
> reason why it's not a good strategy. Another would be loosing a lot of
> good people, as was mentioned here before - the little response to the
> openSUSE release on planet GNOME sucks. 

To be honest opensuse releases never stirred as much attention as Fedora or 
Ubuntu. Ubuntu has the huge loudmouth crowd behind them and Fedora got the 
exciting new features people look forward to but don't really want on their 
working machine just yet. And there is openSUSE, getting more solid with every 
release, beeing the nice working horse that delivers but doesn't get people 
overly excited.
No comments on lwn about the release [1], the promised review from ArsTechnica 
isn't out 3 weeks after release, their news entry [2] also looks pretty 
unexcited. The DistroWatch review count for the latest releases:
Ubuntu 30
Fedora 10
openSUSE 5

Is it missing marketing? Maybe, but for myself what I was most impressed with 
every new opensuse release is how polished most of it is, the version number 
of most components don't excite me as I just got them of OBS way earlier.


Karsten

[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/396189/#Comments
[2] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/07/opensuse-113-arrives-with-
experimental-btrfs-support.ars?comments=1#comments-bar
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