Hello, This arguing over focusing openSUSE developement towards "technical users" or "non-technical users" is silly beyond belief. There is one question that needs to be answered before taking any direction at all: What both groups usually want as soon as installation is finished? Answers are mainly the following: 1) Stability 2) Functionality 3) Discoverability - First is obvious but neglected almost universally nowadays when it comes to Linux distros. Much to improve there. - Second is harder to grasp. GNOME with dual-panel setup and Programs/Places/System menus is arguably more functional than KDE kickoff. Functionality = (action+reaction)/time. This also covers generic program behaviour, overlapping with stability. A program that doesn't work as excepted isn't functional. - Third one, discoverability. The better, more describing word for "user friendly". While CLI is the pinnacle of functionality, it takes time to discover how it works. GNOME, on the other hand, has its features right there to click. They are easy to discover. This obviously overlaps with functionality. Getting at least those three common nominators in order should be enough to create something that appeals for everyone. Take it easy, Otso -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org