Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (465 mails)

[Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Am Montag 12 Juli 2010 schrieb Michael Loeffler:
> > On Monday 12 July 2010 15:07:18 Pavol Rusnak wrote:
> > > On 07/12/2010 03:05 PM, Peter Albrecht wrote:
> > > > Is it really? To me it always has been obvious that the numbering
> > > > scheme was as Chuck mentioned.
> > >
> > > Exactly, but it seems this is going to change now, because we'll be
> > > having 11.4 and maybe even 11.5 (read email by Michael Loeffler above in
> > > this thread). If we want to avoid more confusion, we really have to
> > > document this.
> >
> > Fully agreed, it needs documentation. Its better then guessing.
> > I strongly propose to give the upcoming version the name openSUSE 11.4 as
> > rushing this makes things more likely worse then they are and I don't see
> > agreement on any of the discussed version schemes. I'm oppose to change the
> > scheme to the sake of change but I'm open to change it to improve it.
> OK, so let's kill this thread: the openSUSE versioning scheme is as is:
> we have 11.X till we see a reason to jump to 12.0 - from then on we'll have
> 12.X. This X is increasing every 8 months.
>
> 3 months before release of every 11.X we'll discuss on opensuse-factory if
> the changes in 11.X are worth a 12.0. The board then will decide - this is not
> exactly a technical decision, it's only a collection of gut feelings that need
> to be collected. IMO a board's task.
>
> Reasons for a 12.0 from my point of view are:
> - drastic changes in user experience during installation or the way linux
>  works
> - drastic changes in the base system that make it much harder than usual
>  to do live updates.
>
> But again: I wouldn't try to describe the exact algorithm a new major version
> is picked upon, but make it an open process triggered by a timeline.
>
> Greetings, Stephan

So you want to wait until 3 months before 11.4/12.0 to decide?  That
seems way too late.  I assume in a month or so we'll have the first
11.4/12.0 RC1.  I think it needs to be decided by then for sure.

Or are you saying that decision should have been made 3 months ago?
More reasonable if people already knew what the key "dramatic" changes
in 11.4/12.0 were going to be.  But realistically, OS doesn't seem
able to plan that far out yet.  I certainly don't know what the key
new features of 11.4/12.0 will be yet.

Also, I really think openSUSE version numbers need to relate strongly
to SLE.version numbers, or move to something clearly not related.

(ie. Thinking several years out, having SLE 13 be released in 2018
while OS 14.2 is simultaneously being released seems very confusing
and helps neither OS nor SLE.)

I much prefer 11.x be continued until SLE 12 comes out, then 12.x
until SLE 13 comes out, etc.

Nice simple logic that avoids arguments about "dramatic changes".  And
since the SLE release cycle is long, it keeps the OS major release
number from climbing too fast.

Greg
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