recent rumors were that Mandriva was broke and in danger of folding.. this 7 July 2010 Mandriva press release has a different view and outlines the group "is a technological pioneer offering the sole independent Linux distribution on the European market." see: 'Mandriva is alive! | TuxRadar Linux' (http://www.tuxradar.com/content/mandriva-alive) i offer it here as a potential discussion on how oS might (or maybe should/should not) play in helping the EU (and most all other governmental bodies) break the current lock-in to proprietary software but *not* settle on _one_ name brand open source replacement (thereby risking jumping from one master to another).. and, just mention that we (in openSUSE) might do ourselves smart by prodding (if that is possible) suse.de to learn what we might do to better position oS/SLE_ to have a huge slice of that europa pie/apple strudel.. [final: in the past month there have been posts here (? or in the forum) about how "SUSE" outta get busy in Brazil because the gov there has money to spend on alternative open source solutions.. i offer these thoughts as _possible_ ideas to consider while the strategy forward remains to be finalized..] DenverD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org