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[opensuse-project] Re: Possible strategy discussion topic: Education And Training
- From: Jim Henderson <hendersj@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:15:42 +0000 (UTC)
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:16:53 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks, Carlos - it's good to see you up here as well. :-)
Yes, I think some of the technologies the project has created (like
Studio - a very good example) would be good for an initiative like this.
A few years ago, I was involved in some discussions around Novell's "Open
Courseware" project; the original vision (which has changed since it was
created) was to do something like the Blender project's book; it is (or
was) developed in a wiki and then that was taken to a point where it
could be published as a paper book.
My thought at the time was that it wouldn't be difficult to create an
instructional design flow that set up section objectives, labs, and the
like, and then leveraged the expertise in the community to fill in the
knowledge. Some people who are good at editing could then apply style
guidelines and provide a consistent look and feel to the developed
content.
Of course, that's just one form of course development (and arguably the
model is one that some would say is 'outmoded', with smaller chunks being
used for online e-Learning). The potential for hands-on, though, is
really nice, because of tools like Studio and OBS.
I don't know; the article talked about the development being based in
Ubuntu's Launchpad, but the developer said that he's working on making it
available for other distributions as well. I might grab a Ubuntu setup
and play around with it, because the article didn't talk as much about
what it was or how it worked as I would have liked. It sounds like it's
for live demos and presentations, but it might be a lot more than that.
Absolutely! :-)
Yes, that's a good starting list. The area where Novell (in particular)
does not cover is end-user training, but datacenter and vertical training
is a good thing to include as well.
You'll have to remind me about RACE; the only instance of that that comes
to mind is an internal "pat on the back" awards system (which has since
been rebranded), but I don't think that's what you're talking about here.
This would be analogous to a job task analysis, which would be very
important to conduct within the community. When creating a course (or
writing a book for that matter), it's good to know your intended audience
and what they need to know to get started. An in-depth JTA is almost
always a good place to start.
It's a part of the ADDIE development model - which tends to be used
whenever training content is developed, whether it's formally used or
informally used (or not intentionally used at all, for that matter).
More information about ADDIE is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addie (no
sense in my duplicating what's said there).
Yes, lots of different opportunities here. What we need to do is
determine the right starting point (or points), and then find people with
the necessary skills and/or knowledge to help identify the content needs.
You bet. :-)
Jim
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Jim, It's really nice And comfortable to see your efforts again. I have
no doubts all your points are very impressive And come with a large
experience with the training at Novell.
Thanks, Carlos - it's good to see you up here as well. :-)
Definitely we can build or delivery or at least create an idea about
working on this innovations you are tagging as "next generation of
training delivery" (And I like it ;-)) with all innovative solutions
that openSUSE project handles like openSUSE Studio. The deliverables
training could be workloads. Also I believe OBS could help us - I've
already assuming that I'll work with you on this way walk to the "next
generation of training delivery" ;-) - .... Well... OBS, Studio, Edu
Li-f-e And all innovations openSUSE project handles will be on the table
plus some others experienced peers on this list can.
Yes, I think some of the technologies the project has created (like
Studio - a very good example) would be good for an initiative like this.
A few years ago, I was involved in some discussions around Novell's "Open
Courseware" project; the original vision (which has changed since it was
created) was to do something like the Blender project's book; it is (or
was) developed in a wiki and then that was taken to a point where it
could be published as a paper book.
My thought at the time was that it wouldn't be difficult to create an
instructional design flow that set up section objectives, labs, and the
like, and then leveraged the expertise in the community to fill in the
knowledge. Some people who are good at editing could then apply style
guidelines and provide a consistent look and feel to the developed
content.
Of course, that's just one form of course development (and arguably the
model is one that some would say is 'outmoded', with smaller chunks being
used for online e-Learning). The potential for hands-on, though, is
really nice, because of tools like Studio and OBS.
I was intrigued by an article in this month's Linux Format aboutI didn't heard about that Ubuntu initiatives around Brazil yet... Maybe
Ubuntu's "Lernid" training system. It sounds like that project has a
plan of sorts for training users on using their system, And this seems
to me to be a way in which we could grow the community from which we
are looking to draw contributors.
because I'm so focused on SUSE Linux - by the way, I'll try to figure
out more informations about this one here. - Do you know if they already
have the Portuguese versions for the offers they are working?
I don't know; the article talked about the development being based in
Ubuntu's Launchpad, but the developer said that he's working on making it
available for other distributions as well. I might grab a Ubuntu setup
and play around with it, because the article didn't talk as much about
what it was or how it worked as I would have liked. It sounds like it's
for live demos and presentations, but it might be a lot more than that.
In the forums, we've also had a couple of people express that some
training on openSUSE would be very helpful And useful for them (either
personally or to help people they knew learn about Linux And start
using it).
The way I see it, we could break down training into a few
classifications:
If you don't mid I like to add some points here:
Absolutely! :-)
1. Professional or something related training
1.a End-user training
1.b Datacenter training
1.c Verticals
2. Vertical market training
2.a Embedded training
2.b Retail training
2.c Educational training
2.d Financial
2.e Desktop Publish Training
2.f ...
Yes, that's a good starting list. The area where Novell (in particular)
does not cover is end-user training, but datacenter and vertical training
is a good thing to include as well.
3. Contributor training (for example, how to write effective bugs, code
style conventions, things like that)
Good, we can start to debate, if had ever had, And if so, start to talk
about this subject again, because the time is always changing, And the
ecosystem always changing together, then, starts to talk about some kind
of certifications for openSUSE professionals, enthusiasts, lizards,
members, ambassadors.... I mean, we can adapt some Well done methods
that Novell have in our ecosystem, And You are the best one to explain
to the others about RACE - CNI, CLDA, CLP, Datacenter specialization,
And many others from the past. If you have time to explain a little bit
about Novell RACE for us I think we can start to talk about something
similar for openSUSE project, specially because openSUSE community, And
I'm not talking specific communities like devs, end users, ambassadors,
members, lizards.... But for the entirely openSUSE community Novell RACE
fits very Well - What do you think?
You'll have to remind me about RACE; the only instance of that that comes
to mind is an internal "pat on the back" awards system (which has since
been rebranded), but I don't think that's what you're talking about here.
3. Community training (where to ask what, what to expect, that sort of
thing).We can create a list with some strategic questions and publish on some
blogs around the globe. Will be something like this: "openSUSE new
training and certifications directions team are calling for community
feedback" with some questions that we need to know the answer before
"imagine or guess" any answer that they may have. And take some actions
from that.
This would be analogous to a job task analysis, which would be very
important to conduct within the community. When creating a course (or
writing a book for that matter), it's good to know your intended audience
and what they need to know to get started. An in-depth JTA is almost
always a good place to start.
It's a part of the ADDIE development model - which tends to be used
whenever training content is developed, whether it's formally used or
informally used (or not intentionally used at all, for that matter).
More information about ADDIE is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addie (no
sense in my duplicating what's said there).
From Windows to openSUSE, from mac to openSUSE, openSUSE for the 3th
ages, openSUSE for designers, openSUSE improve your windows skills,
openSUSE for government, openSUSE for kids, all of them with little But
necessary first training steps - i think.
Yes, lots of different opportunities here. What we need to do is
determine the right starting point (or points), and then find people with
the necessary skills and/or knowledge to help identify the content needs.
Thoughts?Yes... Are you ready?
Let's keep in touch
You bet. :-)
Jim
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