Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Cristian Morales Vega <cmorve69@xxxxxxxx>]

2010/6/25 DenverD <DenverD@xxxxxxxx>:
> so, i'll not again question the way things work here, who is most
> important or how we might arrive a higher level together....instead,
> i'll just go back now and live in my really distorted field with
> things like the following to keep me warm at night:

To be clear, I'm thinking of thinks like this:
http://forums.opensuse.org/community/surveys-polls/436881-what-do-you-not-like-about-opensuse-3.html#post2151253

- "The developer "Ivory tower" - We hear the saying "the devs never
visit the forums" quite often. This is sad and in my opinion is a
missed opportunity. Surely this forum consisting of people who
actually use openSUSE in the "real world" has a lot of feedback to
offer. I feel as though I have to go crawling on my knees and jump
through hoops to report a problem."

Devs should use the forums because it seems there is no cost for devs
in that. But a forum user can't write a bug report in bugzilla (that
is not so different than starting a new thread in the forum) because
that means no less than "go crawling on my knees and jump through
hoops"!!

And
- "Out of touch with reality - openSUSE refuses to accept the real
world, by that I mean understanding what end users actually want from
their distro of choice. This whole "head in the sand" thing is really
rather silly. I'm talking about codecs, drivers, and crippled versions
of software. People want these things, they need them, and I can bet
that well over 90% of you actually have them installed on your
systems. Why make life awkward by hiding them away and pretending they
don't exist and making it hard to get them? I know all about the legal
mumbo-jumbo, but openSUSE is supposed to be "the open, community
driven version of Suse Linux Enterprise" isn't it? Then listen to the
community and model openSUSE on what the community wants instead of
what the corporation wants."

Translation: "Developers are not implementing things **I know** they
can't implement because of legalities. That means they ignore the
community."
Are you saying me this makes any sense outside a reality distortion
field? What will be the next? "I asked a lot of times for a time
travel plasmoid and the devs have still not implemented it for 11.3.
They continue ignoring the feedback the forums has to offer."?
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