Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Jim Henderson <hendersj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:30:55 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
>
> > 2010/6/24 Rupert Horstkötter
> > <rhorstkoetter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > My proposal would be to sit together and bring issues to the table and
> > > think about resolving those, e.g. with a mailing list/forums
> > > integration. Even more important is to understand that forums are
> > > needed and it's impossible to align forum users to mailing lists. Get
> > > your ass to the forums (sorry!) and interact with the community of
> > > 45.000+ users out there. Teach them and lower the border into our
> > > community. Is that that difficult. Sorry but if you tell me it actually
> > > is, I'm not that sure if you're really serious with the goal in
> > > recruitinmg contributors and if I'm not completely out of discussion
> > > that's our common goal, isn't it?
> >
> > Could you (or someone else) link to 10 forum threads from June worth
> > reading? I must admit I never followed all the subforums, so perhaps I
> > missed some interesting ones.
> >
> > This doesn't pretends to be an attack in any way. Sincerely, if I read
> > them correctly (not sure about that) the May stats say there were 1217
> > threads started, so 10 doesn't seems a big number. Since you are asking
> > to assign resources to the forum, could you give ten examples of what
> > would we achieve with that? This way everybody can judge by itself if
> > it's worth the effort.
> > Let's ignore for the moment all the filtering required to find those 10
> > threads, I just would like to see the top ten.
>
> I would likely point to threads that have to do with sound
> troubleshooting and the ATI drivers (which oldcpu, one of the mods, does
> a lot of work on) - that sort of thing.
>
> "worth reading" is very much in the eye of the beholder, though -
> something that I think is worth reading may not be something you think is
> worth reading (for whatever reason).
>
> I'll admit that makes me personally hesitant to say "here are the 'top
> 10' threads from June" because of that difference in perception as to
> what's valuable.
>
> http://forums.opensuse.org/get-help-here/hardware/440397-modprobe-
> question.html is a pretty good example of good interaction between
> members to resolve and explain a problem.
>
> It also includes at least one post from someone who does development work
> on the b43 driver.
>
> The hardware forum is one of the forums where a lot of good information
> is exchanged between users.
>
> http://forums.opensuse.org/development/opensuse-build-service-obs/439672-
> error-translation-neither-enabled-nor-disabled-file.html is another good
> one with Malcolm (another of the mods) helping someone with an OBS issue
> they ran into.
>
> Are they "best" examples?  Depends on your definition - but this is more
> typical of the type of conversation that takes place as compared to
> pretty much anything in the soapbox or general chat forums, which seems
> to be where the negative opinions of the forums come from.
>
> Jim
>
> --
>  Jim Henderson
>  Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits

I don't follow the forums, but I have stumbled across good discussions
there when googling an issue I'm trying to resolve.  I'd say there
seem to me more good threads on the forums than in the opensuse
english user mailing list.

My issue is I just don't like forums, sorry.  Maybe some of those more
technical forums could be gated to an appropriate mailing list?

Greg
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