Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 2010-06-22 12:37, Martin Schlander wrote:

> Tirsdag den 22. juni 2010 12:35:12 skrev Jan Engelhardt:
> > On Tuesday 2010-06-22 12:01, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> > > * Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx> [2010-06-22 10:53]:
> > > > But you do not address the problems we're trying to solve.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Provide a clear and unique identity for openSUSE and a good answer to
> > > > the question "Why openSUSE?"
> > >
> > > openSUSE already has a numerous strengths:
> > > * it provides a good compromise between stability and up-to-date
> > >
> > >  packages (as opposed to Ubuntu and Fedora where there is a
> > >  focus on the latter)
> >
> > I can't notice the up-to-date things in Ubuntu either. Which is
> > ok given they focus on the first impression experience instead.
>
> Lots of the stuff in Ubuntu is pretty old taken directly from Debian unstable 
> - but they've also been very eager to push pulseaudio, grub2 and some things 
> like that on people - even in their LTS versions.

But neither is practically relevant. These users just want boot and
sound working, and grub 0.97 and alsa/dmix have been doing just that
for years.

What _is_ relevant in that context is
 - users: KDE 4 over 3.5
 - powerusers: Kernel 2.6.31 over 2.6.27
 - developers: libwhateverbabble 3.0 rather than 2.x
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