Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Vincent Untz <vuntz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 13:57 +0200, DenverD a écrit :
> Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> > * Vincent Untz <vuntz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [2010-06-21 12:28]:
> > > The question is why are all the people you're listing not members yet?
> > > They should probably be!
> >
> > I'm not a member, and apart from not being able to participate in
> > decision-making I haven't seen a need yet to bother with an
> > application process.
> > Actually I think the openness and simplicity of taking part in
> > openSUSE development without having to bother with membership,
> > mandatory mentoring etc. as in other comparable projects is a
> > strength of openSUSE.
>
> same here, i've been contributing in several ways for several years
> and a couple times thought i should "become a member" but when i got
> to to part where i had to try to prove my worth as a contributor to an
> unseen panel of judges, i decided i'd rather just do what i do and let
> those in "the Community" who wanna be in charge of something (like
> deciding who gets into the circle and who can decide the future, etc)
> do that, without me signing up and _asking_ to join the in-crowd..

Wow. You seem to have a really negative image of the membership process
:/ How can we improve this? Why is it a burden for you to mention your
contributions when applying? I don't remember this process to be
difficult or awkward when I applied a few years ago.

As for the "unseen panel of judges", there's a team of people
(membership officials). We should indeed have some page about them.

> but, now i see that a relatively small number of folks _seem_ to be
> well established on a course leading to a grand strategy for the
> future which wholly and purposefully ignores the wants and needs of
> the entire set of _potential_ world wide *users* simply because they
> have not contributed to the community........yet!

I'll point out that any survey you'll do won't reach the world wide
users either.

The strategy team is trying to involve as many people as possible in the
current discussion. Do you think this is not being done correctly? Or is
your comment just about the voting process at the end?

Thanks,

Vincent

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