Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[DenverD <DenverD@xxxxxxxx>]

Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> * Vincent Untz <vuntz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [2010-06-21 12:28]:
> > Le lundi 21 juin 2010, à 12:24 +0200, Guido Berhoerster a écrit :
> > > * Pavol Rusnak <prusnak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> [2010-06-20 22:52]:
> > > > On 06/18/2010 10:04 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote:
> > > > > Besides that, why not let a open survey decide which strategy should
> > > > > be choosen? I wouldn't limit this to members only, because there are a
> > > > > lot of contributors, supporters, moderators, translators and maybe
> > > > > even groupies (hey we need more of them) out there who are no official
> > > > > member.
> > > > We discussed that during Strategy meetings and we agreed unanimously
> > > > that this should be decided by openSUSE members.
> > > Why?
> > Because it's really the simplest way to determine a group of people who
> > should be able to vote. An open survey would be open to many different
> > people, opening the risk that people completely external to the
> > community come and vote for a strategy while they don't really care
> > about openSUSE itself.
> >
> > The question is why are all the people you're listing not members yet?
> > They should probably be!
>
> I'm not a member, and apart from not being able to participate in
> decision-making I haven't seen a need yet to bother with an
> application process.
> Actually I think the openness and simplicity of taking part in
> openSUSE development without having to bother with membership,
> mandatory mentoring etc. as in other comparable projects is a
> strength of openSUSE.

same here, i've been contributing in several ways for several years
and a couple times thought i should "become a member" but when i got
to to part where i had to try to prove my worth as a contributor to an
unseen panel of judges, i decided i'd rather just do what i do and let
those in "the Community" who wanna be in charge of something (like
deciding who gets into the circle and who can decide the future, etc)
do that, without me signing up and _asking_ to join the in-crowd..

but, now i see that a relatively small number of folks _seem_ to be
well established on a course leading to a grand strategy for the
future which wholly and purposefully ignores the wants and needs of
the entire set of _potential_ world wide *users* simply because they
have not contributed to the community........yet!

and having hung out in the forums for a while trying to help the
motivated and excited n00bs break free of other (more restrictive,
less capable and overall less inclusive) systems i can tell you if
openSUSE wants to put the developer/contributor first, and build a
cushy home for developers, and not look back....well, i wanna be able
to vote in that election--so, i placed my bid asking for a judgment
from on high..

DenverD
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