Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Alberto Passalacqua <albert.passalacqua@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

2010/6/10 Trifle Menot <triflemenot@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> No, you misunderstand what I said.

Clearly I'm not alone to "misunderstand" you. And clearly you wrote
sentences that appear to be contradictory.

> > First he says Novell is the problem, and that openSUSE should become
> > completely independent from Novell, then he wrote he
> > doesn't care who pays the bills and it is fine if Novell does that, as
> > long as it doesn't influence the project, then again he identifies the
> > source of the problems with the MS/N deal, meaning that Novell is the
> > problem again, and so on.
>
> No, you misconstrue my words and mischaracterize my position.

Make your position clear and credible. It is your job, not ours.

> > In addition, he comes here saying he won't give any kind of help.
> > This automatically excludes him from those who should be listened to
>
> Your vehicle has a flat tire, and oil is rapidly leaking from your
> motor.  If I fix your flat tire, your motor will freeze a few miles down
> the road.  It makes no sense for me to help fix your flat tire, while
> you insist on driving with an oil leak.  Your priorities are in the
> wrong order.

I don't think independence is the absolute priority right now. It has
its importance, but I see other goals that are more important.
However, independently from this, you refuse to contribute to correct
even the order of priorities.

> > because a community is based on volunteers and contributors. If you
> > don't contribute, you don't acquire the reputation, respect and, in
> > the end, the right to influence the project itself.
>
> You need to listen to outsiders who contribute nothing more than
> opinions.  That's how you build market share.  Listening only to clique
> members will guarantee your demise.

It depends. Some opinion is valuable, and has to be listened. Often
however opinions sound more as unmotivated critics.
You simply need to read the mailing lists of the past years to see
opinion are listened, things are done to answer requests from the
community, and there are many efforts to further move in that
direction.

About the market share, I'm extremely interested in your
qualifications to talk about it. I read your previous post about it,
and you do not seem to have a clear picture of the actual situation
about the actual market share numbers.

A.
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