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Re: [opensuse-project] independence
- From: Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:23:58 +0200
- Message-id: <201006092123.58679.martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx>
Tirsdag den 8. juni 2010 14:21:05 skrev Trifle Menot:
I can no longer resist to share my 2 cents on some of the topics touched in
this discussion.
For me corporate backing is a motivator for contributing to openSUSE - and any
significant corporate backing without giving away at least some control is
unrealistic imho.
It is true that there are some risks involved with investing your time and
emotions in something that is fairly dependent on the whims of some corporate
suits and market fluctuations, but there's also risks involved when
contributing to a pure community based project like Debian - e.g. the release
of all your hard work may be delayed for 6 months because of licence
discussions.
Of course it would be desirable to have some form of "guarantee" that openSUSE
won't just go away. For Ubuntu this sense of security was achieved by Mark
Shuttleworth putting 20 million USD in a foundation. Maybe it would be worth
it for Novell to consider doing something similar when/if an openSUSE
foundation is formed.
There has been some mention of the other sponsors, but open-slx wasn't
mentioned. Personally I find what open-slx are doing extremely interesting -
since they are actually trying to monetize openSUSE. Something Novell never
wanted to do, since Novell is greatly (and mistakenly so) underestimating the
relevance of the consumer market. Open-slx have been hiring some people, and
hopefully they'll be succesful and grow more influential - and hopefully other
companies will copy this model and try to monetize openSUSE too.
Regarding the MS deal. There can be no doubt that it was extremely damaging to
openSUSE in terms of PR - and to some extent continues to be so even now, and
probably will be for years to come. That is true regardless of whether the
deal itself was "evil" or not - and is just something we have to live with.
I'm not sure openSUSE being formally independent would stop Novell actions
from affecting the way people perceive openSUSE.
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I hear rumors Novell is for sale. Will opensuse get its own bugzilla
independent from Novell? And what else needs to be done for opensuse to
gain full independence?
I can no longer resist to share my 2 cents on some of the topics touched in
this discussion.
For me corporate backing is a motivator for contributing to openSUSE - and any
significant corporate backing without giving away at least some control is
unrealistic imho.
It is true that there are some risks involved with investing your time and
emotions in something that is fairly dependent on the whims of some corporate
suits and market fluctuations, but there's also risks involved when
contributing to a pure community based project like Debian - e.g. the release
of all your hard work may be delayed for 6 months because of licence
discussions.
Of course it would be desirable to have some form of "guarantee" that openSUSE
won't just go away. For Ubuntu this sense of security was achieved by Mark
Shuttleworth putting 20 million USD in a foundation. Maybe it would be worth
it for Novell to consider doing something similar when/if an openSUSE
foundation is formed.
There has been some mention of the other sponsors, but open-slx wasn't
mentioned. Personally I find what open-slx are doing extremely interesting -
since they are actually trying to monetize openSUSE. Something Novell never
wanted to do, since Novell is greatly (and mistakenly so) underestimating the
relevance of the consumer market. Open-slx have been hiring some people, and
hopefully they'll be succesful and grow more influential - and hopefully other
companies will copy this model and try to monetize openSUSE too.
Regarding the MS deal. There can be no doubt that it was extremely damaging to
openSUSE in terms of PR - and to some extent continues to be so even now, and
probably will be for years to come. That is true regardless of whether the
deal itself was "evil" or not - and is just something we have to live with.
I'm not sure openSUSE being formally independent would stop Novell actions
from affecting the way people perceive openSUSE.
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