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Re: [opensuse-project] What's wrong with independence?
  • From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:06:20 +0200
  • Message-id: <201006091306.20921.aj@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 14:17:36 Karsten König wrote:
[...]
I guess everybody has his aims in contributing to openSUSE, or any other
project, and they do it for a reason, what's Novells reason? Most
non-employed people do it for their satisfaction, be it shaping something,
improving his own experience, helping others etc etc. But I don't remember
any public statement what Novell expects from it's support for openSUSE,
except what reads like general charity. I can think of alot out of my
head, be it gaining expertise, having a good testbase for future products,
improving future products through external contributions, earning a good
reputation as opensource contributor, providing interesting work topics
for employees, etc.

That's a pretty good list, it includes the items that I normally say when
asked - and what you say below regarding SLE is also important and is on my
list.

http://en.opensuse.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_the_relationship_
of_the_openSUSE_project_to_Novell.3F tries to shortly address this, btw
also stating 'Novell [...] retains ultimate responsibility for the
project.'
The entry states it's the base for SLE, that's it, well this obviously
contradicts the wish for a totally independent community as it might create
something that just won't sell as SLE ;-)

We had some discussion about that inside Novell, so let me summarize this:
openSUSE is the base for SLE - and if the openSUSE distribution goes into a
direction that is not suitable for SLE, then Novell needs to make changes on
top of openSUSE as part of working on SLE. For sure, a win-win would be if no
such changes occur and everything can be taken as is but this is not going to
happen. If we as openSUSE project want to make some different decisions which
are the right decisions for openSUSE and not for SLE, so be it.

Note that in the past we did already some things differently for openSUSE than
for SLE, like the installation workflow which is slightly different between
openSUSE and SLE.

I want to see development happen in openSUSE that is relevant for SLE but I do
not want to see again a disaster happen like the zmd story - meaning,
development for SLE is fine as long as it does not break openSUSE.

Does that help? Should I try to make at some time an more official looking
statement off Novell's view of openSUSE?

Btw. does any of you know about similar statements from Red Hat for Fedora or
Canonical for Ubuntu?

Andreas
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