Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (930 mails)

[Oddball <monkey9@xxxxxx>]

Administrator schreef:
> > > Being independent does not mean Novell cannot sponsor oS, 
> > >       
> > or lets it 
> >     
> > > use the infrastructure...
> > >       
> > In fact, that's where we are, as AJ pointed out.  Novell has 
> > moved from being a "controller" of openSUSE to being a 
> > partner/sponsor of openSUSE.
> > But apparently, some people just can't see past that.
> >     
>
> There's no such thing as independence, just diferent varietes of dependence.
> We can choose on whom we are dependent, and for what, and how closely
> "bound" we are.  We can't choose to not be dependent on anybody unless we
> choose to go live in the woods, and grow / kill our own food (dependent on
> the continuing natural environment and a legal system to prevent our murder)
> and make all our own clothes and tools (dependent upon our forebears for
> education).
>   

Sure, you are right about that.
In the universe all things and not things, are dependable upon one
another, being aware of that fact or not....

I think however, to define independent in this case as 'unit',
container, like the Foundation, which will be the legal person openSUSE.

To be seen for everybody as an 'Independant Body'..
In this foundation, all the members can and cannot do is written, as
offcourse the Aim, and how to achieve this.
The means choosen to be appropriet to achieve the goal(s).
Protecting the goals from personal failures.

This is the best decision i heard of lately, and deserves the utmost
care, to get the realy nessesary words exactly on paper the way they
should, as they become 'law'.
(put as less restrictions to acting as possible here..)


> Many would balk at dependence upon Microsoft, and I agree with that.  I see
> no sign that either oS or Novell are dependent upon Microsoft, although
> there are direct and indirect relationships.  oS is dependent upon Novell
> for the resources which have been described.  This could be changed although
> no-one seems to have sufficient interest in finding an alternate onto whom
> we could switch our dependence.  Why do so when there are other more
> important and interesting things to work on?
>   

The more important and interesting things should be done from the right
basis: The Foundation.

>   
> > > What is it oS needs, besides the infrastructure and a lot of money?
> > >       
> > Contributions!  Contributions! Contributions!   Doesn't 
> > really matter if
> > we have money and infrastructure if we don't have people 
> > stepping up to take the lead on various tasks.  
> >     
>
> i.e. resources in different forms.
>   

exactly, they can be attracted as soon as oS has become a legal Body.


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Enjoy your time around,


Oddball, aka M9.


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