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Re: [opensuse-project] Do the openSUSE guiding principles mean what they say?
- From: N B Day <nbday@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:54:28 -0800
- Message-id: <1268232868.2516.38.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 06:26 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
1. Prohibit signatures longer than four or five lines.
2. Require that posts be signed with a real name.
3. Allow only brief positive statements of personal belief or ideology;
prohibit attacks on other beliefs or ideologies and personal attacks.
The person mentioned somewhere up this thread who posts Bible verses has
never attacked any other religion, he just very politely advocates for
his own. I don't think anybody finds this offensive. Lately, he's been
posting little snippets from the American Founding Fathers which argue
for the notion that the US was founded as an explicitly Christian
nation. I think that this is a profound mis-reading of history, but
since (again) no other point of view is being explicitly attacked, I
think it is innocuous. His signature rarely exceeds four lines.
The person I've complained about often posts this:
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There are none so blind as those who will not open their eyes
(liberals)
because dogma is more important than the truth!
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This is a sneering attack on an ideology, utterly irrelevant to the
discussions on opensuse-en and seems to me to be improper. If it were
framed as "Conservatives have their eyes open and see the truth," then
it would just be a positive statement of personal belief and entirely
proper.
The quotation from William Muir is not in the fortune database and did
not appear randomly. It was a paragraph-long attack on a culture and
religion, borrowed from a 19th century bigot, not a personal statement
(although the poster apparently agrees with it). It far exceeded in
length the on-topic material in the post. If the Guiding Principles mean
anything, this has to be out-of-bounds.
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On Wednesday 10 March 2010 02:38:03 jdd wrote:I just don't think it is that hard.
the only solution whould be to prohibit all signature content...
... that has politics, religion and sex as subject :)
else to moderate the list
There are forums that are designed for moderation and have moderators.
1. Prohibit signatures longer than four or five lines.
2. Require that posts be signed with a real name.
3. Allow only brief positive statements of personal belief or ideology;
prohibit attacks on other beliefs or ideologies and personal attacks.
The person mentioned somewhere up this thread who posts Bible verses has
never attacked any other religion, he just very politely advocates for
his own. I don't think anybody finds this offensive. Lately, he's been
posting little snippets from the American Founding Fathers which argue
for the notion that the US was founded as an explicitly Christian
nation. I think that this is a profound mis-reading of history, but
since (again) no other point of view is being explicitly attacked, I
think it is innocuous. His signature rarely exceeds four lines.
The person I've complained about often posts this:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
There are none so blind as those who will not open their eyes
(liberals)
because dogma is more important than the truth!
--------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a sneering attack on an ideology, utterly irrelevant to the
discussions on opensuse-en and seems to me to be improper. If it were
framed as "Conservatives have their eyes open and see the truth," then
it would just be a positive statement of personal belief and entirely
proper.
The quotation from William Muir is not in the fortune database and did
not appear randomly. It was a paragraph-long attack on a culture and
religion, borrowed from a 19th century bigot, not a personal statement
(although the poster apparently agrees with it). It far exceeded in
length the on-topic material in the post. If the Guiding Principles mean
anything, this has to be out-of-bounds.
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N. B. Day
39° 28.3964' North, 119° 48.6346' West, 1403m up
Aurelius up 3 days 19:23, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.01
Linux 2.6.31.12-0.1-desktop openSUSE 11.2 (x86_64) Gnome 2.28.2
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