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Re: [opensuse-project] USB installer support for 11.3?
- From: Clayton <smaug42@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:37:10 +0100
- Message-id: <e29967881002100537y3c744eedu91a091166af4b6d6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 14:27, Martin Schlander
<martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Have you ever tried to walk a new user through doing that? I have...
it's not fun at all. In the end we used unetbootin which... kind of
worked.. it wasn't nice either, but at least we succeeded.
We don't expect users to burn their DVD that way (and you can burn
your DVD from the CLI)... why should we think it's OK to make them
create a USB install that way?
DVDs are not the latest and greatest anymore... laptops are being sold
without them... of the laptops I own, only one has a DVD reader... the
rest... nothing. Bootable USB are the replacement.
I wasn't even thinking that advanced :-) ... I was considering that
there must be some user friendly way to write an image to USB....
something we could take advantage of.. like say unetbootin. It's
crossplatform... and works reasonably well in most cases. My only
real issue with using that is that problem I've encountered across
multiple USB devices (including ones I did not create myself so I
assume it's not a "just me" problem) where the installer errors out,
drops to text mode and takes some fiddling to get it back to the GUI
installer again.
Anyway, it was an idea... of something we could maybe use as a "cool
feature" in the next release... something other distros are also
starting to do by the way... Ubuntu for example has a "create a
bootable USB installer" thing built into the system menu now.... we
have nothing but.. "use the command line, it's easy" response :-(
which is meaningless to the average user.
C.
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<martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Don't think simply running 'dd' should be too difficult for most people.
Have you ever tried to walk a new user through doing that? I have...
it's not fun at all. In the end we used unetbootin which... kind of
worked.. it wasn't nice either, but at least we succeeded.
We don't expect users to burn their DVD that way (and you can burn
your DVD from the CLI)... why should we think it's OK to make them
create a USB install that way?
DVDs are not the latest and greatest anymore... laptops are being sold
without them... of the laptops I own, only one has a DVD reader... the
rest... nothing. Bootable USB are the replacement.
But it would be nice if someone could slap a gui "frontend" to dd together,
which lets them select the iso and device and asks them if they're absolutely
sure they want to delete everything on the device about 3-4 times, before
proceeding. Maybe as a yast module.. to get Qt and gtk versions "for free".
I wasn't even thinking that advanced :-) ... I was considering that
there must be some user friendly way to write an image to USB....
something we could take advantage of.. like say unetbootin. It's
crossplatform... and works reasonably well in most cases. My only
real issue with using that is that problem I've encountered across
multiple USB devices (including ones I did not create myself so I
assume it's not a "just me" problem) where the installer errors out,
drops to text mode and takes some fiddling to get it back to the GUI
installer again.
Anyway, it was an idea... of something we could maybe use as a "cool
feature" in the next release... something other distros are also
starting to do by the way... Ubuntu for example has a "create a
bootable USB installer" thing built into the system menu now.... we
have nothing but.. "use the command line, it's easy" response :-(
which is meaningless to the average user.
C.
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