Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (96 mails)

[Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob OpenSuSE wrote:

> 2009/11/19 Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
> > > 2009/11/18 Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Just run smoltSendProfile, and that's exactly what will happen.
>
> How many ppl would bother to do this?

Not many, only those with an active interest in smolt, I suspect - which
might also happen to be the ones with a use for a Smolt ID ?

> > > On smolts.org there's some very basic stats, but I don't think we
> > > can see what OS 11.2 has been tested on.  So it's hard to know if
> > > it's worth spending  time on a box, checking if our OS is
> > > installable to a point where bug reports could be submitted.
> >
> > This might be a matter of opinion, but unless you've got a really
> > unusual box (embedded or some such for instance), why don't you just
> > try it out?  99% of hardware will be supported to a point where
> > whatever remains is worth submitting bugreports on.
>
> You've been missing the point in this thread.  This is about using
> time of all better.  If you have access to many machines, how do you
> choose where is worthwhile trying something? 

To me, what is worthwhile testing is something I determine.  It is in no
way influenced by what may or may not have been tested already. 
I will often try out the alphas/betas/RCs on boxes I might be prepping
for production, or a box that has been taken out of production, but not
yet moved. Right now I've got a new firewall box sitting next to me, 
running 11.2.  It won't be going into production for a while.
Downstairs I've got an elderly PII running one of the later builds, plus
a new(ish) Proliant also on a recent build, but pre-RC. 

> If 10 people are using that machine daily as a desktop already, then
> it's waste of time duplicating their effort. 

Perhaps - doesn't it depend some on what they're doing with it and if it
is _exactly_ the same machine?

> It seems clear from response to this thread as a project, we really
> have very little idea really about the range of hardware our newest
> release has been tested on. 

Yes, I think that is a very safe assumption to make. 

> We could only start to get a picture as cron jobs start running on
> 1st.  But don't find it obvious with smolts.org how to filter out
> Fedora etc and only look at results for OS 11.x.

I looked at the smolt package, and AFAICT, Henne Vogelsang added a
requirement for cron back in 2008, so maybe that's when the cron-file
was created too. Maybe Henne had some specific idea wrt the 0120 time
to run smolt?


/Per Jessen, Zürich

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