From an option 1 standpoint It would be a lot easier just to package match what is in SLE with a subset from OpenSUSE than to make arbitrary choices of what packages to include or not to include. The end user can then decide from what is on that install media what they want to install or not. If SLE gives a minimal UI option we should give the exact same options on OpenSUSE Server/LTS as well.
What is in SLE and is installable is a known quantity, we know what
packages are in it.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Greg Freemyer
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Boyd Lynn Gerber
wrote: There are basically four options. From the new wiki I set up on
http://www.zenez.com/mediawiki/openSLE-openSUSE_LTS-wiki/index.php5/Overview...
They are as follows.
1. openSUSE [4] Server CD
Server Edition, somewhat alike the GNOME and KDE media https://features.opensuse.org/305664.
2. openSUSE [5] LTS longer term security and support, community driven complete release.
3. openSUSE [6] LTS subset (a reduced core of openSUSE[7])
with mainly Server SW.
4. openSLES a CentOS equivalent for SLES[8] based on SUSE Linux Enterprise[9].
I see only 1, 3, 4 as really possible given the current people that have said they are willing to work on the options.
From personal emails to me on options 3 and 4. It currently stands as 23/23. Option 3 could be done on the OBS in league with factory. Option 1 needed a community maintainer/s. As per openFATE.
https://features.opensuse.org/305664
I hope this clears up what I see as the options currently available.
[4,5,6,7] http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org [8] http://www.novell.com/products/server/ [9] http://www.novell.com/linux/
Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber
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ie. OpenSuse Server CD with LTS support. No KDE, No Gnome, (No audio!) just enough of a gui to help the home user / small bus. server run web-yast, etc.
After all, if it is going to be option 3, you will need a way to tag items as part of the LTS support system. That seems to me to mean unique yast repositories I'm afraid.
ie. If I install from the Server CD, then run yast I would only want LTS supported packages to be offered to me. If I choose to install a package from the normal OpenSUSE repos or OBS, then I know right then that I'm losing my LTS setup.
So if option 3 is going to require all of that, then it seems appropriate to make it a full new OpenSUSE Server LTS Distro. For the first 18 months, the security patches just get imported from opensuse and for the rest of the support timeframe the community less Novell provides the security patches directly.
I don't think you need to offer this with every Opensuse release, but maybe every other one, or even every third one. After all server functionality does not change near as fast as desktop functionality.
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