On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Lubos Lunak
You keep using this framing device. I'm very interested in which other popular-competitors-in-a-component-used-by- nearly-all-users-and-whose-choice-affects-dozens-of- interconnected-applications "other options" you have in mind.
Web browser. It matches the description pretty well after realizing that all the web-based stuff is applications too.
Used by nearly everyone? Strongly agree. But "popular competitors"? Were 1/3 of openSUSE users using Konqueror? And web-based apps are on the same level of effort as a KOffice and Konqueror? And you're saying web pages load as differently as the GNOME/KDE divide based on what browser you're using?
Currently we have Firefox as the clear default and we do not even offer a choice in any prominent place. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but if one day Chrome has 90% users and Firefox 9%, it would be clearly very stupid to still keep Firefox as the default without any easy way to change it
I agree. Your order-of-magnitude test there is along the same lines of what I think is an appropriate threshold for desktop preselection. (And why I didn't like your examples comparing KDE/GNOME use (2-1) to driving/selling cars (> 1000-1) or right-left handedness (10-1)). Lubos I'm happy to continue this with you offlist if you like, but these threads are insanely long so I'm going to give my closing arguments and move on. A Good Policy will take into account the magnitude of a pre-selection's ripple effects and the relative popularity of the competition. If KDE and GNOME used all the same default applications, or if one were 10x more popular than the other, this conversation wouldn't be taking place. Speaking as the author of GTK+ and Qt apps that ship on various distros, my sense is that openSUSE's stated guiding principle to "respect... different preferences for applications, environments, tools or interfaces" is not well-served by preselecting any desktop. Thanks to everyone (or, anyone ;) who's read this far. cheers, Charles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org