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Re: [opensuse-project] openFATE feature 306967, KDE default
- From: "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:53:07 -0400
- Message-id: <81d32afc0907310653o102258ak23ca0c932590b36c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Lubos Lunak<l.lunak@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It's been a while since I installed any other distros, but the "major"
distros, we're probably unique here.
However - if we want to go down this route, shall we remove all other
dialogs and choices that aren't found in other installers?
Sure there is. I'm not convinced that voting should be open to any and all.
We had a jump in registered users following this feature of more than
200 users, which means to me a bunch of people who may not have had an
interest in participating in openSUSE decision making have suddenly
taken an interest in one feature.
Now -- if this means we have >200 potential contributors who are going
to remain involved, great! If it means we have >200 people who just
want to say "+1 KDE" and then go back to being not involved, not so
good.
Novell does want the project to be "really open" and I don't believe
it would stand in the way of this feature. But, that doesn't make this
something wise to do just to demonstrate that the project can go in a
different direction than Novell.
Best,
Zonker
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On Friday 31 of July 2009, Michael Loeffler wrote:
- we simplify the installation by one click for 2/3 of our users, accordingI'm not aware of any other major distribution requiring this kind of decision
to question no. 11 in our last openSUSE survey [3] made in 11.0 time
frame
during their installation - is there one?
It's been a while since I installed any other distros, but the "major"
distros, we're probably unique here.
However - if we want to go down this route, shall we remove all other
dialogs and choices that aren't found in other installers?
Some other observations I have with respect about this feature:
- inviting people through blogs, web pages, mailing lists or twitter to
vote has potential to set the credibility of the voting system at risk as
people not involved with openSUSE or not using openSUSE express their
thoughts
:-/ ... no way to prevent that, though, and where does one set the limit of
who still is worthy voting and who is not?
Sure there is. I'm not convinced that voting should be open to any and all.
We had a jump in registered users following this feature of more than
200 users, which means to me a bunch of people who may not have had an
interest in participating in openSUSE decision making have suddenly
taken an interest in one feature.
Now -- if this means we have >200 potential contributors who are going
to remain involved, great! If it means we have >200 people who just
want to say "+1 KDE" and then go back to being not involved, not so
good.
- the feature shows the success of opening up the openSUSE
project. Few years ago decisions were made by Novell and nowadays decisions
are challenged by our community.
If this feature gets approved, it would certainly show that openSUSE is
really open and not just something that Novell fully controls.
Novell does want the project to be "really open" and I don't believe
it would stand in the way of this feature. But, that doesn't make this
something wise to do just to demonstrate that the project can go in a
different direction than Novell.
Best,
Zonker
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openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org
Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net
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