Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (172 mails)

[Ricardo Cornet <rcornet@xxxxxxxxx>]

Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 avril 2009, à 21:03 -0400, Ricardo Cornet a écrit :
>   
> > Except the classic problem Gnome vs KDE issue. In
> > KDE you just change your settings on KDE settings and its done. Gnome
> > takes it settings form the $LANG enviroment variable instead of a config
> > file. I install my personal systems with english as main system language
> > and for my personal account I set KDE to spanish and is all right except
> > when go to a GTK/GNOME app that starts in english. So with KDE I can
> > have easily multilingual desktops on the same machine, but GNOME
> > requires some hacks for the same. A wide fit all solution require more
> > work on install and first session time.
> >     
>
> I'm a bit surprised -- I would expect that LANG is set when you log in
> (in KDE too). Note that this is really a standard way to define the
> language for an app. See for example:
> http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xbd/envvar.html
>
> Vincent
>   
True. is the standard way since ancient times. Designed for command line
apps. My home system have LANG=en_US.UTF-8 set and I also have
LC_COLLATE to posix. Simply because that behavior is better for the
command line, man pages documentation, error messages, whatever works
better setting them.

But why the desktop has to depend on them?. Why I can't set them
differently? . Well I can change after I open a terminal, but the
command line tools should not dictate graphical tools policy and
viceversa. KDE people got this right, GNOME people had another opinion.

Of course every process can inherit it process enviromental variables.
But one realm getting on the way of the other is bothersome.

To clarify, after initial system installation KDE does start in english,
but it can be set permanently to be in another language just by setting
KDE internal configuration. After an update this does not change, the
.kde files are just the same. GNOME behavior assume that the user can
only use one language on the system.


That is my experience with linux distros in general for years, not just
opensuse.

 If I'm mistaken on something please make me know.

Ricardo Cornet.
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