Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (441 mails)

[Birger Kollstrand <birger.kollstrand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

2009/3/9 Vincent Untz <vuntz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Le lundi 09 mars 2009, à 09:45 +0100, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
> > On Monday 09 March 2009 04:22:16 Luis Medinas wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 01:24 +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> > > > Let's face it: some aspects of how we (= the openSUSE community) have
> > > > been handling releases have serious room for improvement.  On the tools
> > > > front we have made good progress.  Testing and development cycle have a
> > > > lot of potential still.  The proposal Coolo shared is one idea to improve
> > > > on that front.
> > >
> > > Yes i agree we should focus on testing for 11.2 (some of those steps are
> > > already done now just provide usuable beta releases and i think we are
> > > almost done in this area).
> > > My concern is only about this 8 month release cycle (which i agree
> > > because we don't have to deliver buggy stuff in the usual 6 month
> > > release like fedora and ubuntu) is the fact we have to sometimes let the
> > > latest GNOME or KDE out. Other distros are usually shipping those in
> > > time and desktops are usually the "face" of the distros.
> > > One good rule of OSS, release good and release often because it will be
> > > good marketing.
> >
> > It's still better than right now ;) - and I suggest, let's give this a try 
> > for
> > some releases and if it really does not work in the long run, we revisit 
> > it...
>
> Nod. I'm not that worried about missing one GNOME or KDE release. We can
> always offer it in a build service project, or create a re-spinned Live
> CD if we want (and I think we will want to do this :-)).
>
> I mean, we're already doing the work to backport GNOME 2.26 to 11.1, eg.
> This would be the same thing (admittedly, a bit more difficult, since
> we'll want to keep the new patches in GNOME:Factory in GNOME:Unstable,
> but it's worth trying it at least once)

All avoided if we have a general repository with backports that
"normal" users can subscribe to. Just move from Factory/backports when
the SW is considered stable. It can even generate positive press as
"openSUSE relases KDE xxx or Gnome yyy for immediate update".

Factory or 10 different repositories will probably not do the trick.
Factory is to bleeding, and an everyday user will not manage X number
of aditional repositories.

Birger
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