Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (441 mails)

[Karsten König <remur@xxxxxxx>]

Hey,

great to see there is a plan =)

Am Donnerstag 05 März 2009 13:29:29 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
> Am Donnerstag 05 März 2009 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> > You could consider an eight-month cycle with a bit of leeway. Like
> > delaying one month if that means catching a nice enough release of
> > something upstream. Or if the holidays get in the way, as you just did
> > for 11.2.
>
> Yeah, considered and thrown away. We need fixed schedule urgently - and
> holidays don't jump around much in the year. And we won't wait for upstream
> as outlined in my mail.

Still a release before big holiday seasons like 11.1 should be avoided, people 
like toying around but nobody wants to fix bugs in the holidays. if that 
24months block structure is kept around even in case of delays that's robust 
then.

> Yeah, we had a naming convention summit here and ... NO, I walked this
> morning with my son and suddenly I wondered if he's already aware of
> himself or if he needs other subjects to make him aware he's an individual
> - as he started waving every other person he sees. And as I continued my
> thinking, I thought that Fichte is a nice nick name for the next release -
> well, the other 3 I made up in no exact relation to each other.

Uh, I am quite neutral to the release name thing, but should we really 
announce a list like for 2 years in the future? The Ubuntuguy uses their name 
announcements to spread the word about plans for the next release.

> > > Public releases would happen on the Thursday before the 15th of the
> > > month, and the gold master (GM) would be finalized one week prior to
> > > that. We are planning a strict four-week release candidate (RC) phase.
> >
> > Strict... :-?  IMO, bugs, sometimes important, are only found during the
> > RC phase. It's a fact. Some people only test at that point. A little
> > flexibility might be handy to polish those bugs. 11.1 got a lot of them:
> > some were solved just very recently.
>
> So you're saying we shouldn't have release 11.1 before march? I'm afraid we
> don't have that kind of flexibility, as a matter of fact some users were
> already shoked when they didn't get their boxes for christmas.

The additional testing time and planned increased stability of factory will 
hopefully turn up the worst bugs early enough, but stuff like this should have 
stopped the release: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=408252
That christmasbox disaster could be accounted to a tight release schedule in 
front of holidays as well I think.


/me likes the schedule



Best regards,
Karsten

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