2009/1/7 Rajko M.
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 07:25:44 am Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
2009/1/4 Rajko M.
: On Saturday 03 January 2009 05:34:31 pm Eric Springer wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
For instance, OpenOffice is for me no-no in KDE4 desktop. Reason is nvidia driver for legacy chipsets (FX 5200). What happen is when OOo window has focus, and mouse pointer is anywhere on the desktop outside the OOo window, it will wreck havoc. When OOo window has no focus all comes back to normal.
If one would be very strict OOo will not go out until that is fixed. Many users have graphic that is based on legacy GPUs, so bug affects a lot of people. Nvidia interest is to fix first bugs in drivers for current hardware, so legacy is after that. You can't let all the people wait until bug that affects only KDE4 users with legacy Nvidia graphic, is solved.
Won't using the open source 2D 'nv' driver avoid that issue? Bugs with documented workrounds are less serious.
If it would be simply press the button, switch to nv and run OpenOffice, that is no problem. The only easy to handle solution is not to use KDE4, until Nvidia guys can solve the problem
If you want to run KDE4 and OOo, and you've been able to track the problem down to a specific one in the Nvidia binary driver, then you are perfectly capable of changing a line of text from "nvidia" to "nv".
Using a legacy Nvidia driver, means a tainted unsupported kernel, and no updates from Nvidia. If it works it's good fortune, if it doesn't you are left with the pieces; which is why we should support opensource friendly hardware companies.
If only opensource drivers would provide all functions that I need, I would be more than happy to use them, but they don't.
Apropos 'tainted': I'm not sure that people advocating pure opensource can see all consequences. Small vendors with limited intellectual property assets can't opensource much without hurting themselves. Nvidia is relative small fish in the hardware market, if they disappear, that will mean lesser competition, and that doesn't work for consumers.
Your problem is caused because you bought Nvidia who have always had a closed policy, and now they don't support their old hardware properly. I don't believe you need 3D to run OOo, nor KDE4, you just like desktop effects or something. As Nvidia don't support, nor update drivers for legacy cards, and there's no source available, you will not get a fix in the example you have shown. When buying hardware, it's important to choose companies that are supporting, openSOURCE developments, by being cooperative. Then there's a far better chance that years on, your card will still be useful, years down the line. You're using openSOURCE, disk drivers, virtual memory system, scheduler, C compiler, libraries; there's no fundamental reason that the graphics drivers can't be as good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org