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Re: [opensuse-project] Boxed editions slipping on release dates (3 weeks in some cases)
- From: "Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:58:56 -0600
- Message-id: <200901062358.56774.rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 07:25:44 am Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
If it would be simply press the button, switch to nv and run OpenOffice, that
is no problem. The only easy to handle solution is not to use KDE4, until
Nvidia guys can solve the problem. I know it is solved, it worked fine with
newer adapter that is now toast. The backport is what I'm waiting for, and it
will come, but it is not high priority.
If only opensource drivers would provide all functions that I need, I would be
more than happy to use them, but they don't.
Apropos 'tainted':
I'm not sure that people advocating pure opensource can see all consequences.
Small vendors with limited intellectual property assets can't opensource much
without hurting themselves. Nvidia is relative small fish in the hardware
market, if they disappear, that will mean lesser competition, and that
doesn't work for consumers.
It was conditional. If one would be strict then some serious bugs will delay
release, although openSUSE has nothing to do with them.
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2009/1/4 Rajko M. <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
On Saturday 03 January 2009 05:34:31 pm Eric Springer wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
For instance, OpenOffice is for me no-no in KDE4 desktop. Reason is
nvidia driver for legacy chipsets (FX 5200). What happen is when OOo
window has focus, and mouse pointer is anywhere on the desktop outside
the OOo window, it will wreck havoc. When OOo window has no focus all
comes back to normal.
If one would be very strict OOo will not go out until that is fixed. Many
users have graphic that is based on legacy GPUs, so bug affects a lot of
people. Nvidia interest is to fix first bugs in drivers for current
hardware, so legacy is after that. You can't let all the people wait
until bug that affects only KDE4 users with legacy Nvidia graphic, is
solved.
Won't using the open source 2D 'nv' driver avoid that issue? Bugs
with documented workrounds are less serious.
If it would be simply press the button, switch to nv and run OpenOffice, that
is no problem. The only easy to handle solution is not to use KDE4, until
Nvidia guys can solve the problem. I know it is solved, it worked fine with
newer adapter that is now toast. The backport is what I'm waiting for, and it
will come, but it is not high priority.
Using a legacy Nvidia driver, means a tainted unsupported kernel, and
no updates from Nvidia. If it works it's good fortune, if it doesn't
you are left with the pieces; which is why we should support
opensource friendly hardware companies.
If only opensource drivers would provide all functions that I need, I would be
more than happy to use them, but they don't.
Apropos 'tainted':
I'm not sure that people advocating pure opensource can see all consequences.
Small vendors with limited intellectual property assets can't opensource much
without hurting themselves. Nvidia is relative small fish in the hardware
market, if they disappear, that will mean lesser competition, and that
doesn't work for consumers.
Why should OOo be delayed because of problems on unsupported
configurations?
It was conditional. If one would be strict then some serious bugs will delay
release, although openSUSE has nothing to do with them.
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Regards, Rajko
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