Eric Springer wrote:
What we need, is to put a lot more effort into the user-friendliness of factory. It should be easier to install, easier to upgrade to. Easier to report bugs. It shouldn't be in inconsistent states so often and we should be trying to keep it as stable as possible.
Amen! When I read the factory list, I sometimes have the impression that the devs dump everything into factory as soon as it barely compiles. This may be nice for the devs, because they do need a place to dump their code, but it is absolutely horrible for testers. Which is also the reason why I have not yet tested factory a single time. The miserable state in which 11.1 beta 1 (beta, not even factory!) was this time actually just reinforced that feeling. OpenOffice was completely unusable, crashed every time (bug #429069). Which is just a _huge_ waste of testing time, because probably dozens of people wast^wspent their time researching this already known issue (just like me). Just replace the binaries with xmessage "OpenOffice is currently broken. We're working on it." or just don't include stuff that is known to be broken in a release intended for public testing. Happy Holidays nordi -- Spam protection: All mail to me that does not contain the string "suse" goes to /dev/null. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org