Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (82 mails)

["Stephen Shaw" <sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Druid <marcio.ferreira@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Stephen Shaw <sshaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > So, I'm constantly hearing complaints about 1-click.  Am I the only
> > one?  Should the 1 click process be shortened?
>
> What does the subject of the email has to do with the content?
>
> Anyways, congrats on the maximum vagueness you achieved in your
> message, its really impossible to tell what are the problems (if they
> exist, if bugs are opened or not, or what exactly is the so-called
> complain), and how is the process possibly be shortened or stuff
> (maybe cut some steps, like installing the package, or solving
> dependencies, make it run as root without authentication, dont ask for
> confirmation of the user, that would certainly make it short).
>
> I have a suggestion: why not make a script that you could use with
> "wget -O -q $url/$name | sh" (like in XD2, right?) as root and that
> would copy and overwrite stuff like some sort of automatix script
> breaking dependencies? That would shorten the process significantly,
> and possibly eliminate the complains about 1-click. Who's with me?
>
> cheers
>
> Marcio
> ---
> Druid


Sorry for the vagueness.  I personally have NO problem with 1-click.
I use it often and recommend it just as much.  I think the build
service is awesome too.  I'm not trying to pick on 1-click or offend
anyone on the project.

What I was meaning to say, was that I have had many people complain to
me about the name of 1-click and if the name is 1 click why does it
take 8 or 9 clicks to accomplish the task.

Please note that I am NOT user X

For example:

21:39 < X > Y: uhm, so I just tried out the "1 click install" from the
build service..
21:40 < X > Y: it took me 8 clicks... ?
--- snip ---
21:40 < X> yeah, I installed bzr via 1 click at the build service site.
--- snip ---
21:42 < X > seems it'd be less clicks if I just downloaded an .rpm directly..
--- snip ---
21:48 < Y > X: a lot of people have commented on that, but what name
would you give it
21:49 < X > well not 1 click, that's for sure ;)
--- snip ---
21:46 < X > and apturl, which is also a web-based installation
shortcut manages the same thing in two clicks.
21:46 < X > one to click the link, one to verify you want it
installed.. and dependencies.
--- snip ---
21:52 < X > i just don't think that logic makes sense.. may as well
call it 'one click email' and 'one click firefox', because those are
all 'started with just one click'
--- snip ---
21:54 < X > if it were two or three clicks (to verify and one for the
password) that'd be reasonable, but 8+ clicks just really makes it
stand out.
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