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Re: [opensuse-project] IRC etiquette
- From: Randall R Schulz <rschulz@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:25:37 -0700
- Message-id: <200806111525.38101.rschulz@xxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 15:11, Francis Earl wrote:
I meant that it is not possible to _effectively_ require that people
maintain some (inherently subjective) standard of civility in a forum
that is open to all and which attracts hundreds or thousands of
participants.
Not true. Not everyone deserves respect. It's reasonable to expect a
minimal degree of respect from someone you don't know as a kind of
default, but over time, an individual either earns respect by their
conduct or does not.
Can you support this claim? It seems foolish to me. I would rather be
chastised by someone who knows what they're talking about if I ask
questions stupidly than I would hang around with a bunch of people who
won't call a spade a spade.
But now you're back to talking about principals, not the general user
community, which is why I asked you if any openSUSE project participant
had offended you.
Randall Schulz
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How is that relevant? You don't believe participants should be
required to hold a certain level of professionalism when on
official platforms for project communication?
No only do I not believe that, I don't believe it's possible.
Of course it's possible, ...
I meant that it is not possible to _effectively_ require that people
maintain some (inherently subjective) standard of civility in a forum
that is open to all and which attracts hundreds or thousands of
participants.
You're dealing with human beings. Some are nice most of the time.
Some are rude most of the time. No one is nice all the time and
very few are rude all the time.
I agree, but you should respect everyone you encounter, no matter how
much you dislike them or whatever your mood.
Not true. Not everyone deserves respect. It's reasonable to expect a
minimal degree of respect from someone you don't know as a kind of
default, but over time, an individual either earns respect by their
conduct or does not.
...
Many people are moving from Debian to Ubuntu due to general mood of
the project.
Can you support this claim? It seems foolish to me. I would rather be
chastised by someone who knows what they're talking about if I ask
questions stupidly than I would hang around with a bunch of people who
won't call a spade a spade.
Every Ubuntu user and maintainer/developer is required
to fulfill certain behavioral standards everywhere, and I think it's
obvious it's really worked for Ubuntu.
But now you're back to talking about principals, not the general user
community, which is why I asked you if any openSUSE project participant
had offended you.
Randall Schulz
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