On Monday 21 April 2008 07:17:53 am Martin Lasarsch wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 19:04:45 Rajko M. wrote:
Searching with built in search, or Google for the opensuse.org domain gives some help in this, but as any search it is not ideal for everybody, as precondition for successful search is that person knows something about topic. This leaves users that are making first steps in openSUSE and Linux out, and that is the category that we would like to have as easy entrance as possible.
IMHO there is no way around using the search. We will never have a structure/index which will cover most or all pages. This is the nature of a wiki, you can do whatever you want (not really). It might be possible if you disable new pages from everybody, or only after a review. This is still a lot of work and against the "everbody can post" concept of the wiki. The other solution would be that somebody really would take care about the wiki, content wise, fulltime.
The intention is to find somebody with experience that will create frame that will help volunteers that maintain wiki to bring most asked content in some kind of index, like my attempt with Portal. The point is to allow everybody to contribute and then to pick up grains of wisdom in easy to access place. The idea to protect SDB still can be good, as there must be some place for guys that are experts in the field, but don't like to waste their time fighting not so skilled with strong opinion :-) Maybe, just to protect on demand.
And yes, searching means that you should have an idea of what you want :-)
I'm not sure if we are that bad. I can find most information on the wiki, and i've seen worse ones. There are wikis in the wild where i'm really sitting and thinking "wth can i find something here?". And thats not because i know our wiki, it's because we have at least some navigation bar and the most important stuff on the frontpage.
I'm asking for help, not because we are bad, but because there is a lot of room for improvement, and I don't feel that 2 guys that currently working on indexing have enough time and experience to do all without help. You can see our ideas in opensuse-wiki, and some work files on wiki itself: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Popular_Topics http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Tasks http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Category_Hierarchy -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org