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Re: [opensuse-project] opensuse upgrade: newer, faster, worse
- From: Maciej Pilichowski <macias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:06:37 +0200
- Message-id: <200710122006.37625.macias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello,
> And you want to help? Because making things only develop in one
> direction without any regression is _work_ - a lot of work. And
> unless you want to pay 100€ for every openSUSE release, you better
> supply patches on a regular base to help. And I'm afraid I don't
> see them.
My post was technical (I gave some ideas how to solve problems), not a
personal attack.
Since I would like to keep it this way, just a short personal answer:
a) pay or don't say anything -- it is just a excuse, so the user would
think that for 100E she/he is not buying quality system but rather
right to speak about it
b) help
b.1) * when user just uses linux it is bad, because she/he should send
bug/wish/crash reports
* when user already does that it is also bad, because she/he
should send patches
* and so on
Sorry, I won't regret that I am not dying from overwork
b.2) I already try to help seeking bugs or new ideas, I have only 24h
per day so I am unable simply to type faster, sleep less, and simply
not live my life (unfortunately I do the last part for a long time)
b.3) last but not least, suggesting that I don't help (or my help does
not count) is just rude (not to me, but to any person, it is not
about computers Stephan)
Back to technical issues -- I would be glad to hear if solving
problems with backward compatibility has rather green light in
opensuse or it is just a matter of "some users" (in other words: buy
a new computer). I would be glad to discuss how to solve it, so new
users would get the best system while users who just upgrade do this
without struggling.
have a nice day, bye
--
Maciej Pilichowski
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> And you want to help? Because making things only develop in one
> direction without any regression is _work_ - a lot of work. And
> unless you want to pay 100€ for every openSUSE release, you better
> supply patches on a regular base to help. And I'm afraid I don't
> see them.
My post was technical (I gave some ideas how to solve problems), not a
personal attack.
Since I would like to keep it this way, just a short personal answer:
a) pay or don't say anything -- it is just a excuse, so the user would
think that for 100E she/he is not buying quality system but rather
right to speak about it
b) help
b.1) * when user just uses linux it is bad, because she/he should send
bug/wish/crash reports
* when user already does that it is also bad, because she/he
should send patches
* and so on
Sorry, I won't regret that I am not dying from overwork
b.2) I already try to help seeking bugs or new ideas, I have only 24h
per day so I am unable simply to type faster, sleep less, and simply
not live my life (unfortunately I do the last part for a long time)
b.3) last but not least, suggesting that I don't help (or my help does
not count) is just rude (not to me, but to any person, it is not
about computers Stephan)
Back to technical issues -- I would be glad to hear if solving
problems with backward compatibility has rather green light in
opensuse or it is just a matter of "some users" (in other words: buy
a new computer). I would be glad to discuss how to solve it, so new
users would get the best system while users who just upgrade do this
without struggling.
have a nice day, bye
--
Maciej Pilichowski
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