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Re: [opensuse-project] foo@xxxxxxxxxxxx is a subscribers only list
- From: Gerald Pfeifer <gp@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:29:42 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.0.9999.0709060029070.2447@xxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
>> 1. Abandon this level of strictness and instead use decent spam
>> and virus filtering.
> This does not help, as I see with the gphoto mailinglists.
That means the gphoto mailing lists don't have good filters. Those on
gcc.gnu.org hardly ever let spam or viruses through.
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> What I consider _very_ ugly though is that these mails are simply wasted
> and not moderated or even replied full quote. Right now I have to dig in
> my sent folder to resend with the correct From header.
Ack.
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>> Frankly, with unfriendly a reponse like this, I usually think twice
>> about contributing.
> Could you please state whats unfriendly in that response?
As Coolo pointed out, it doesn't allow me unblock or simply resend my
own message, but I first have to subscribe (where the response doesn't
tell me where) and then find my original message and resend it.
It would be nice to see the following changes:
o Include a reference to the respective mailing list page on
www.opensuse.org, so that subscription is just a link away.
(I see you're actually proposing this below. ;-)
o Describe how to subscribe using mail.
o Provide more details on the "nomail" magic.
>> If human moderation does not work, how about a simple scheme where
>> one has to follow a URL provided in the auto-response to unlock his
>> previously sent message? w3c does this very nicely, for example.
> So self moderation? What use would that be?
Basically the original message is put into quarantine and instructions
are provided how to self-approve it. That self-approval step takes care
of bots and similar. w3c.org really handles this nicely, for example.
> True. I can modify that message. How about
>
> "If you want to be able to post from more than one email address, you
> can subscribe the other addresses to the nomail version of the list.
> For more information on of the openSUSE mailinglists see
> http://en.opensuse.org/Mailinglists";
That would be great, thanks. (s/on of/on/, I assume.)
It would be nice to also provide direct instructions on how to subscribe
by e-mail, so that one doesn't have to go through the web; basically add
To subscribe to a mailing list, send e-mail to
<LISTNAME>+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx
to the snippet above.
Thanks,
Gerald
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Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
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>> 1. Abandon this level of strictness and instead use decent spam
>> and virus filtering.
> This does not help, as I see with the gphoto mailinglists.
That means the gphoto mailing lists don't have good filters. Those on
gcc.gnu.org hardly ever let spam or viruses through.
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> What I consider _very_ ugly though is that these mails are simply wasted
> and not moderated or even replied full quote. Right now I have to dig in
> my sent folder to resend with the correct From header.
Ack.
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
>> Frankly, with unfriendly a reponse like this, I usually think twice
>> about contributing.
> Could you please state whats unfriendly in that response?
As Coolo pointed out, it doesn't allow me unblock or simply resend my
own message, but I first have to subscribe (where the response doesn't
tell me where) and then find my original message and resend it.
It would be nice to see the following changes:
o Include a reference to the respective mailing list page on
www.opensuse.org, so that subscription is just a link away.
(I see you're actually proposing this below. ;-)
o Describe how to subscribe using mail.
o Provide more details on the "nomail" magic.
>> If human moderation does not work, how about a simple scheme where
>> one has to follow a URL provided in the auto-response to unlock his
>> previously sent message? w3c does this very nicely, for example.
> So self moderation? What use would that be?
Basically the original message is put into quarantine and instructions
are provided how to self-approve it. That self-approval step takes care
of bots and similar. w3c.org really handles this nicely, for example.
> True. I can modify that message. How about
>
> "If you want to be able to post from more than one email address, you
> can subscribe the other addresses to the nomail version of the list.
> For more information on of the openSUSE mailinglists see
> http://en.opensuse.org/Mailinglists";
That would be great, thanks. (s/on of/on/, I assume.)
It would be nice to also provide direct instructions on how to subscribe
by e-mail, so that one doesn't have to go through the web; basically add
To subscribe to a mailing list, send e-mail to
<LISTNAME>+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx
to the snippet above.
Thanks,
Gerald
--
Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@xxxxxxxxxx SUSE Linux Products GmbH
Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
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