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[opensuse-project] foo@xxxxxxxxxxxx is a subscribers only list
- From: Gerald Pfeifer <gp@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:11:03 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.0.9999.0709032333110.3419@xxxxxxxxx>
The openSUSE mailing lists do not strike me as particularly open.
I have been contributing to free software projects for over ten years,
but none I can remember appears as unfriendly when someone not subscribed
to a list tries to post to that list.
Why do we have such a strict setup? As evidenced by hosts like
gcc.gnu.org, it is possibly to keep lists spam free without it.
*If* we need such a form of moderation, could this be human
moderators? Frankly, with unfriendly a reponse like this, I
usually think twice about contributing.
If human moderation does not work, how about a simple scheme where
one has to follow a URL provided in the auto-response to unlock his
previously sent message? w3c does this very nicely, for example.
Also, the message refers to a "nomail version of the list" but a
regular user certainly will have not idea whatsoever what that is
and how to subscribe to that version of the list.
</rant>
My recommendations are:
1. Abandon this level of strictness and instead use decent spam
and virus filtering.
2. If this does not work sufficiently well, employ human moderation
or a challenge/reponse schema.
3. Better describe what the "nomail version of the list" refers to.
Gerald
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Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@xxxxxxxxxx SUSE Linux Products GmbH
Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: zypp-devel+owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: gp@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:35:22 +0000
Subject: zypp-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxx is a subscribers only list
Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglist
zypp-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxx
You have tried to post from this email address:
gp@xxxxxxxxxx
But this address is not subscribed, and only subscribers may post to
the list.
If you believe you are correctly subscribed, please check the email address
you subscribed with in the welcome message, or check the headers of
any message to the mailinglist.
If you want to be able to post from more than one email address, you
can subscribe the other addresses to the nomail version of the list.
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For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I have been contributing to free software projects for over ten years,
but none I can remember appears as unfriendly when someone not subscribed
to a list tries to post to that list.
Why do we have such a strict setup? As evidenced by hosts like
gcc.gnu.org, it is possibly to keep lists spam free without it.
*If* we need such a form of moderation, could this be human
moderators? Frankly, with unfriendly a reponse like this, I
usually think twice about contributing.
If human moderation does not work, how about a simple scheme where
one has to follow a URL provided in the auto-response to unlock his
previously sent message? w3c does this very nicely, for example.
Also, the message refers to a "nomail version of the list" but a
regular user certainly will have not idea whatsoever what that is
and how to subscribe to that version of the list.
</rant>
My recommendations are:
1. Abandon this level of strictness and instead use decent spam
and virus filtering.
2. If this does not work sufficiently well, employ human moderation
or a challenge/reponse schema.
3. Better describe what the "nomail version of the list" refers to.
Gerald
--
Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@xxxxxxxxxx SUSE Linux Products GmbH
Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: zypp-devel+owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: gp@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:35:22 +0000
Subject: zypp-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxx is a subscribers only list
Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglist
zypp-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxx
You have tried to post from this email address:
gp@xxxxxxxxxx
But this address is not subscribed, and only subscribers may post to
the list.
If you believe you are correctly subscribed, please check the email address
you subscribed with in the welcome message, or check the headers of
any message to the mailinglist.
If you want to be able to post from more than one email address, you
can subscribe the other addresses to the nomail version of the list.
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To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx
For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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