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Re: [opensuse-project] Bug-filing granularity
- From: Jared Allen <jpallen@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:27:19 +0000
- Message-id: <1187713639.19609.24.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 13:53 -0400, Michel Salim wrote:
> On 18/08/07, Dominique Leuenberger <Dominique.Leuenberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I think it's not that important to have the package name somewhere, much more important is the program name. A very good example IS gnome-games:
> > rpm -ql gnome-games | grep "/bin" | wc
> > 17 17 302
> >
> > so, we have actually 17 binaries in this package. A bug in a game (so one of the binaries) does not have to affect all the others. As well, the reporter might not be aware that the bug he just saw is coming from an underlying library, so in this case the component would be totally wrong per se.
> >
> > The granularity is, imho. quiet good. It happens some times that you just don't find the correct answer, but that's not a problem, as the screening-team is doing a great job reassigning, should somebody select a wrong one.
> >
> > Having now all the packages listed, would make it more than irritating for bugreporters; on my system, which is by far not fully bloated, I already habe 1347 packets. Would you suggest having an entry for every single one in bugzilla? I'm sure nobody would get it right anymore... that would be more than only confusin.
> >
> Fair enough; it's just that everyone else (Debian, Ubuntu,
> Fedora/RHEL) allows filing bugs against individual packages. I guess
> (assuming users know how to file bugs properly, or developers reassign
> bugs to the correct packages) it makes it easier to evaluate the
> performance of individual package maintainers. If SUSE developers are
> not assigned individual packages to work on, but the maintenance is
> done in teams, then the point is rather moot, and it is not so
> important to have components be 1:1-mapped to SRPMs.
Personally, I'd rather allow filing bugs against individual packages.
This would help a lot with bug maintenance and bug triage. However, I'm
concerned that the number of packages would make bug filing unwieldy
with our current bug reporting interface (especially for the users that
are less technical or experienced with the packages). I think we'd need
to change our bug reporting interface if we wanted to include every
package.
Jared
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> On 18/08/07, Dominique Leuenberger <Dominique.Leuenberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I think it's not that important to have the package name somewhere, much more important is the program name. A very good example IS gnome-games:
> > rpm -ql gnome-games | grep "/bin" | wc
> > 17 17 302
> >
> > so, we have actually 17 binaries in this package. A bug in a game (so one of the binaries) does not have to affect all the others. As well, the reporter might not be aware that the bug he just saw is coming from an underlying library, so in this case the component would be totally wrong per se.
> >
> > The granularity is, imho. quiet good. It happens some times that you just don't find the correct answer, but that's not a problem, as the screening-team is doing a great job reassigning, should somebody select a wrong one.
> >
> > Having now all the packages listed, would make it more than irritating for bugreporters; on my system, which is by far not fully bloated, I already habe 1347 packets. Would you suggest having an entry for every single one in bugzilla? I'm sure nobody would get it right anymore... that would be more than only confusin.
> >
> Fair enough; it's just that everyone else (Debian, Ubuntu,
> Fedora/RHEL) allows filing bugs against individual packages. I guess
> (assuming users know how to file bugs properly, or developers reassign
> bugs to the correct packages) it makes it easier to evaluate the
> performance of individual package maintainers. If SUSE developers are
> not assigned individual packages to work on, but the maintenance is
> done in teams, then the point is rather moot, and it is not so
> important to have components be 1:1-mapped to SRPMs.
Personally, I'd rather allow filing bugs against individual packages.
This would help a lot with bug maintenance and bug triage. However, I'm
concerned that the number of packages would make bug filing unwieldy
with our current bug reporting interface (especially for the users that
are less technical or experienced with the packages). I think we'd need
to change our bug reporting interface if we wanted to include every
package.
Jared
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