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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] "Illegal" software, which can be hosted at *.opensuse.org
- From: Michael Loeffler <michl@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:30:39 +0200
- Message-id: <200708141130.39710.michl@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 09:25, Clayton wrote:
> > I had to remove a number of software packages in the last days from the
> > openSUSE Build Service for legal reasons.
> >
> > I do maintain also a list of this software, which is known (to our legal
> > folk) to be illegal at this place:
> >
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List
>
--snip--
>
> Well... why can't we (the community... Novell... who?) provide a
> binary that we as consumers can purchase - thereby fulfilling the
> license requirements by providing the license fees to teh patent
> owners - and then install on our computers?
This might help: https://shop.fluendo.com/
There a variety of multimedia codecs can be purchased and everything is legal.
M
> What is really stopping
> this? A philosophical reason? I detest software patents as much as
> the next guy, but they are an unfortunate reality...
>
> I would love to see a proper and legal solution to this. As long as
> there is no legal solution the end users will continue stepping over
> the line because we have no other choice... other than to completely
> shut ourselves off from the world... and that is not going to happen
> in the real world... maybe in some fantasy world... but... the reality
> is we as users demand a decent media player that supports the media
> formats available (as MPlayer and Xine already do).
>
> The ridiculous solution of shipping a crippled build of the Xine
> library... is just that.. ridiculous... completely understandable from
> the legal aspect, but... the wrong solution to the problem.
>
> I don't have the magic answer... but I really hope I can light a fire
> under the right people and the community can find a legal and
> acceptable solution that provides the functionality instead of simply
> breaking the applications rendering them totally useless to the end
> users.
>
> C.
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Phone: +49 911 74053-376
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg
SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10
Your Linux is ready
http://www.novell.com/linux
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
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> > I had to remove a number of software packages in the last days from the
> > openSUSE Build Service for legal reasons.
> >
> > I do maintain also a list of this software, which is known (to our legal
> > folk) to be illegal at this place:
> >
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Application_Black_List
>
--snip--
>
> Well... why can't we (the community... Novell... who?) provide a
> binary that we as consumers can purchase - thereby fulfilling the
> license requirements by providing the license fees to teh patent
> owners - and then install on our computers?
This might help: https://shop.fluendo.com/
There a variety of multimedia codecs can be purchased and everything is legal.
M
> What is really stopping
> this? A philosophical reason? I detest software patents as much as
> the next guy, but they are an unfortunate reality...
>
> I would love to see a proper and legal solution to this. As long as
> there is no legal solution the end users will continue stepping over
> the line because we have no other choice... other than to completely
> shut ourselves off from the world... and that is not going to happen
> in the real world... maybe in some fantasy world... but... the reality
> is we as users demand a decent media player that supports the media
> formats available (as MPlayer and Xine already do).
>
> The ridiculous solution of shipping a crippled build of the Xine
> library... is just that.. ridiculous... completely understandable from
> the legal aspect, but... the wrong solution to the problem.
>
> I don't have the magic answer... but I really hope I can light a fire
> under the right people and the community can find a legal and
> acceptable solution that provides the functionality instead of simply
> breaking the applications rendering them totally useless to the end
> users.
>
> C.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@xxxxxxxxxxxx
--
Michael Löffler, Product Management
Email: michael.loeffler@xxxxxxx
Phone: +49 911 74053-376
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg
SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10
Your Linux is ready
http://www.novell.com/linux
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
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